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  1. #61
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    Your a star Vann, just what the doctor ordered !!
    Fantastic!!
    Melbourne Matty.

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    I picked up a bunch of original photos recently and I thought you would like this one.


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    Default My Bigger Brother.

    Quote Originally Posted by wallace1973 View Post
    I picked up a bunch of original photos recently and I thought you would like this one...
    Ah-ha. The LR - big brother to the LQ - which is big brother to the LP. Actually, I suspect the LP and LR are contemporary - with the LQ coming later (and probably replacing both of them).

    Wadkin LR.jpg I think I stole this off the internet - maybe one of Matty's?

    Interesting that the two idler (90 degree) pulleys don't have flanges to keep the belt in place, like the LP does. And it looks like there's a lever to slightly raise or lower the two idler pulleys, depending on which step of the front pulley is being used.

    Cheers, Vann.
    Gatherer of rusty planes tools...

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    Default Drive Options - pt.3.

    In December last year I wrote:
    Quote Originally Posted by Vann View Post
    ...It would appear that my machine (despite having a motor at the top) was originally flat-belt driven, as at least one of the lugs to hold the striking gear shifter are still present.

    aLP-14.jpg
    I still feel it must have been intended to be flat-belt driven. The 1¼” hole for the shaft for the pulleys was faced-off and bored. The hole for the ½” locating set screw was drilled and tapped, and a set screw fitted (that set screw is about 100mm long, and especially manufactured for this purpose). The two lugs for the shifter are present and their ¾” square holes are clean, ready for the shifter shaft.

    LP 107.jpg LP 108.jpg The shaft is a ring-in.

    So everything necessary to line-shaft drive the machine was done. Maybe the customer wanted a motor driven recessor and Wadkin had to convert this one at short notice?

    It took the Test Sheet to convince me it came in this format...

    aLP-12.jpg

    Cheers, Vann.
    Gatherer of rusty planes tools...

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    Default Blacking.

    The LP sits quite low. I'd like to mount it on 4" x 4" beams (6" x 6" if I can get them in anything other than pine). The beams would extend out the back so I can eventually mount the motor there (see the final illustration in the previous post).

    I've sourced four square-head 4" x " coachscrews to tie the machine to the beams. I wanted square-head, as that's most likely what a carpenter would have used back in the 1920s. Modern hexagon-head coachscrews are available galvanised - but these recycled square-head screws are bright steel (now that I've removed the rust ).

    Keeping bright steel rust free long term is always a problem - and down at floor level they're unlikely to receive even an occasional wipe with an oily rag. In the past I've painted nuts and bolts in this situation. Wallace now chemically blackens his bright fittings.

    Traditionally, blacking was done by heating and dipping in oil. I thought I'd give that a go.

    I could only find a small amount of used engine oil (I have succumbed to the trend of having someone else do my oil changes ). Enough to fill a baked-bean can, but not much more. I started by heating some flat washers, red hot, and dropping them in the oil. It was messy fishing them back out, but the finish looks good. I then tried the first coachscrew - not quite as nice as the washers, but still nice. Lots of smoke . The second coachscrew went well too, but by this time the small amount of oil had got very hot and ignited. Nothing dangerous, and the second larger tin I had on hand snuffed the flame. But I didn't want to tempt fate and so I stopped at this point. I'll either have to find more oil, or do the last two one at a time.

    LP 109.jpg Two down. Two to go.

    Cheers, Vann.
    Gatherer of rusty planes tools...

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    Default Blacking - pt.2.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vann View Post
    LP 109.jpg Two down. Two to go.
    I got the last two done.

    LP screw4.jpg

    And I found some larger washers. These washers were zinc plated - not 'bright' steel like the smaller washers. I wire-brushed the plating off the upper face of each washer, but only gave the underside a cursory brush. The 'blacking' didn't like the contaminated face.

    LP screw3.jpg The blotchy underside of the washers.

    Doesn't matter. I've got the finish I wanted on the upper face, and on the coachscrew heads. I can always add a bit of paint to the underside if I feel it needs it.

    Cheers, Vann.
    Gatherer of rusty planes tools...

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    Default Drive Options - pt.4.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vann View Post
    ...I still feel it must have been intended to be flat-belt driven. The 1¼” hole for the shaft for the pulleys was faced-off and bored. The hole for the ½” locating set screw was drilled and tapped, and a set screw fitted (that set screw is about 100mm long, and especially manufactured for this purpose). The two lugs for the shifter are present and their ¾” square holes are clean, ready for the shifter shaft.

    LP 107.jpg LP 108.jpg The shaft is a ring-in.

    So everything necessary to line-shaft drive the machine was done. Maybe the customer wanted a motor driven recessor and Wadkin had to convert this one at short notice?...
    And here's a clue I missed earlier...

    aLP17.jpg Bottom line: "Speed of driving pulley 900 r.p.m."

    No wonder I thought it was belt driven - obviously it was - until a customer wanted a motor driven version.

    Cheers, Vann.
    Gatherer of rusty planes tools...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vann View Post
    ...I removed the sheet of MDF covering the table and found it had been in the wars.

    aLP21.jpg aLP20.jpg Someone had even machined a rectangle into the table .

    The screws visible in the top surface attach the rack which provides the longitudinal movement.

    aLP22.jpg Underside of table...
    The table was very slightly bowed/twisted, so I sent it away to be surface ground.

    LP 110.jpg LP 111.jpg

    They took ~0.7mm off - which fortunately was enough to take out that rectangle. It's certainly highlighted the "arc of shame" marks, but they'll merge into a new patina in time. The main thing is it's now flat. I won't say how much it cost .

    Cheers, Vann.
    Gatherer of rusty planes tools...

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    My LP table is in a similar state so I was going to do the same. I also picked up a rotary table to put on which should be fun

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