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    Doug,
    Now the big question because it is obvious you are developing a fondness for this particular piece of timber.

    Now a saw handle,when is the tricky saw slot going in.
    The pressure is now on especially since your now emotionally involved.


    Cheers Matt,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    ... when is the tricky saw slot going in.
    The pressure is now on especially since your now emotionally involved.
    So far, Matt, all I have done is cut out the shape and sand the saw-marks off.

    With that profile defined, I think it best to cut the kerf for the saw-plate and drill the holes for the sawnuts while the handle still has flat sides.

    I believe it would be more difficult to do those tasks if the handle shaping took place first.

    It is also probably a good idea to cut the kerf as early in the piece as possible as it is the step with the greatest risk of disaster.

    I haven't decided what to use for cutting the kerf yet - I need to measure the sawplate and find something with a similar kerf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug3030 View Post
    So far, Matt, all I have done is cut out the shape and sand the saw-marks off.

    With that profile defined, I think it best to cut the kerf for the saw-plate and drill the holes for the sawnuts while the handle still has flat sides.

    I believe it would be more difficult to do those tasks if the handle shaping took place first.

    It is also probably a good idea to cut the kerf as early in the piece as possible as it is the step with the greatest risk of disaster.

    I haven't decided what to use for cutting the kerf yet - I need to measure the sawplate and find something with a similar kerf.

    Doug Doug,
    My whole point your just at the hot lust stage of the dating thing.
    I would do the saw slot if it was me right about Now.
    If it all goes pear shape you havenít wasted a lot time on the saw handle.
    You still get to shed a tear, but you ainít in the divorce court screaming your lungs out about all the effort you put into the love affair.

    Iíve used a hacksaw blade in the past to start a slim saw slot.
    That then can be opened up using the same saw plate you intend to use on the saw.(But with no set)

    Cheers Matt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    My whole point your just at the hot lust stage of the dating thing.
    I would do the saw slot if it was me right about Now.
    If its all the same to you I will eat my dinner first, before it goes cold


    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
    That then can be opened up using the same saw plate you intend to use on the saw.(But with no set)
    This is a rehandle job - saw is already set
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    Mat, I am out for this unfortunately, I really wanted to come down and say hello to everyone but it is not to be.
    CHRIS

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug3030 View Post
    If its all the same to you I will eat my dinner first, before it goes cold
    Ha, Ha. Sounds like a man going in to battle. Remember to have a squat first too!

    Rob Streeper identified a good method to me of cutting the saw slot.

    1. Mark your kerf with either fine pencil or better still use a marking gauge.
    2. With a fine tooth saw without set, saw along the line only to the depth of the teeth. In practice this is probably no more than 2mm.
    3. With a similar saw, but with the teeth set, deepen to, say 10mm.
    4. Now you can use another saw to open up the kerf to suit the thickness of the plate and cut to the required depth.

    The principle is that once you have a shallow kerf all around the slotted part of the handle it is much easier to avoid drifting off.

    Since using Rob's method I have not had a failure as far as the saw slot goes (plenty of other disasters). The only drawback with this method is having a number of suitable saws. I have a couple of el cheapo gentlemen's saws I use for the first two steps above. A hacksaw blade as Matt has suggested might also work for opening up the kerf in step 2, but I am not sure how well it would track for the step 1 as it relies on a "wave" rather than "set."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Parks View Post
    Mat, I am out for this unfortunately, I really wanted to come down and say hello to everyone but it is not to be.
    Pity you can't come and join the party Chris.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Rob Streeper identified a good method to me of cutting the saw slot.

    ...

    The principle is that once you have a shallow kerf all around the slotted part of the handle it is much easier to avoid drifting off.
    The sawplate is 1.1mm thick.

    The blade on my 14 inch bandsaw cuts a kerf 1.1mm thick. I might try an experiment on a piece of the scrap I cut off the sawhandle. I will cut the kerf first with a japanese saw and see if the bandsaw will follow it nicely, against a high fence. The bandsaw is well tuned and can cut thin veneers accurately so I think it might be worth a go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Parks View Post
    Mat, I am out for this unfortunately, I really wanted to come down and say hello to everyone but it is not to be.
    Chris,
    Thanks for letting us know, itís a shame you canít make it.
    But we understand, itís quite a drive for a one day event.

    Cheers Matt,

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    In preparation for Matt's weekend, I had a workshop visit today from Benny

    Benny came over for a bit of a hand with getting a handle blank started and to make some sawnuts on my metal lathe.

    We discussed a few aspects of timber selection for saw handles and used one of the templates from Blackburn tools' website to mark out a handle from some Banksia Benny brought with him.

    We had time to talk our way through the lathe work for one saw-nut, with a bit of finishing work to still be done, hopefully next week.

    It was a pleasure to have Benny in the shed for the day. He is a young man who is keen to learn, respectful of the equipment and a pleasure to teach. I really enjoyed the day.

    Here are some pictures of the day in progress. Benny is the personification of concentration.

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    Doug/Benn


    That looks like a great day of activity.
    Well done to you both .
    I must apologise for my lack of attention here lately, just a bit going on in my world away from the forum.

    But I am very much looking forward to the day which is just around the corner now.

    Cheers Matt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplicity View Post
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    That looks like a great day of activity.
    Well done to you both .
    It was an absolute pleasure helping Benny spread his woodworking wings a bit wider.

    I was hoping he would post a photo or two of his saw handle in progress. It really is well done.

    Benny, have you worked out yet when you are coming back to finish the preparations for Matt's day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug3030 View Post
    It was an absolute pleasure helping Benny spread his woodworking wings a bit wider.

    I was hoping he would post a photo or two of his saw handle in progress. It really is well done.

    Benny, have you worked out yet when you are coming back to finish the preparations for Matt's day?
    Thanks a lot, I had a lot of fun as well.

    I have been pretty busy recently so forgot to post photos. Went straight out of my head after Thursday! Here are the photos of the saw handle, + my first item of metal turning (saw nut). The wood is banksia serrata.

    I think Thursday this week at the same time would work fine.

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    Benny

    My conscience says I should warn you of the slippery road to hand saw addiction.

    But I'm not going to.

    Nice saw handle and timber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Benny

    My conscience says I should warn you of the slippery road to hand saw addiction.

    But I'm not going to.
    Too late Paul, the bug has bitten him. His eyes glaze over and he hyperventilates when he sees all of my "works in progress". I have to keep them out of sight when he is in the shed.

    But hey that is a good thing.
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