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24th March 2012, 10:46 PM #1
Boat Licence for a power canoe?
Hi,
It's been a while since I've been here, bit hopefully about to get back into boatbuilding. I have built a stand-up paddleboard recently but time to get back into a kayak/canoe/boat.
Anyway, a flyfishing friend wanted a tinny or similar for us to fish in lakes, but I am leaning towards a canoe. We don't necessarily need to stand up, they're a bit more versatile, and no need for a trailer. Plus saves on rego, trailer costs, fittings, etc. And I can build it
My question (finally?) is... if I fit an outboard or trolling motor to make it a 'power canoe' as an option, does this then make it a power boat and require boat licence, rego, mandatory safety gear, etc?
I'm based in Victoria, but wasn't sure from an initial read of the marine regs I could find online. So any advice/experience would be appreciated so I know whether I need to take all this into account if I decide to go the motor route.
Thanks,
Darren
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26th March 2012, 10:14 AM #2Intermediate Member
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Re: Boat Licence for a power canoe?
Hey
According to the Vic Gov transport site, any boat/yacht with a motor or propulsion requires a license. Here is the link to their FAQ's
http://www.transportsafety.vic.gov.a...censing#yachts
Hope that helps.
Andrew
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26th March 2012, 11:26 AM #3
Thanks Andrew, I didn't see the FAQ's.
Guess I need a licence then May just stick to paddles to keep life simpler but good to know. Just need to convince my friend this is the way to go (and to give me a few months to build something ) rather than buy a metal tinny.
Regards,
Darren
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26th March 2012, 11:32 AM #4Intermediate Member
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Re: Boat Licence for a power canoe?
No worries. I learnt the hard way that going straight to the FAQ's is often the best way to find what you are looking for. Best of luck convincing your mate
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26th March 2012, 03:59 PM #5
TK1 ,
yes a canoe would be better for fishing than a KAYAK, I am building this for a friend,.
My own boat is only slightly larger a MANGROVEJACK 3.65MT.
The Canoe is 3.800Mt x 1.118Mt x .350Mt and weighs in at less than 30Kg's , It has been modified for sailing , but the standard design is for a small petrol 2hp motor , an electric motor to 44lb thrust, and oars , not paddles.
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26th March 2012, 04:25 PM #6Hammer Head
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in NSW under 10knots no lic, rego required.
seen heaps motorised canoys but no reg numbers on them
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26th March 2012, 04:35 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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Very reminiscent of a Tinoo (aka skiny tinny) vk4 although much nicer lines. And at under 6hp you don't need a licence here in Qld.
Neighbour was considering a similar build or purchase, but ended up with a second hand yak he can throw on top of the 4x4 or even in his much larger Blue Fin when on prolonged expeditions.
But you're right, I've fished from canoe and yaks, and canoe if best. My yak has far too many things to think about before you enjoy the fishing.
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26th March 2012, 04:39 PM #8
Pretty sure its 10 knots in Vic as well. If you can't go faster than that then you don't need one either.
Thats how they allow the very slow put put boats that you can rent at lakes entrance without a license.
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26th March 2012, 04:47 PM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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Aren't hire boats are often treated differently under licencing laws?
Presumably the hiring outfits can train someone in a few minutes.
The few times I've hired in NSW, up to certain power/speed (not sure which) you only needed car licence. And then I think this was for ID.
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27th March 2012, 01:40 PM #10
I may have misunderstood the NSW laws. I thought that any vessel that is over 5.5 meters OR 4hp required registration ?
In queensland the law is simple and IMO much more sensible than down south. 4hp rego, 6 hp licence. No lengths. That way if you've got a 20' canoe you don't ahve to register it, nor a 20' sailing cat or whatever.
I have always been bewildered about dual state/federal rego. Every other vehicle, like planes and trucks, that carry federal rego don't ahve to also register at state level, but boats do.
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