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Thread: A new Hartley TS16
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28th May 2009, 08:32 PM #16Senior Member
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Cutting out the ribs now. We decided to use meranti.
That is my Dad, not me .
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28th May 2009, 08:45 PM #17
This is an exciting stage...making a kit of parts...you've got a nice long space there...but don't let your dad have all the fun!
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9th June 2009, 11:29 PM #18Senior Member
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These have been temporarily screwed together but not glued yet. Needless to say that they are not alligned properly yet. We just couldn't resist standing them up for a photo.
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10th June 2009, 04:17 PM #19
Good to see the progress Elmo. I'd be interested to know which method you used to cut all of those rectangular rebates for the stringers. Did you make a template and rout them? Or maybe good old-style tenon saw and chisel? So much repetition makes 'tooling up' worthwhile, but it also gives us a chance to practise our skills with simple tools.
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10th June 2009, 04:21 PM #20Senior Member
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No we did it the old fashioned way.
Jig-saw!
They are all marginally small though so we can use the tenon saw and chisel to finish them off tight.
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27th May 2010, 10:22 AM #21New Member
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Howdy and all that...
A real newbie here...
Got my TS-16 project from my brother who started it (hull on stocks) but is moving out of state and can't take it with him. She still needs a little more work before she's ready to roll over for the first time.
Got his old plans but seems like not all there, what's in the whole package? Nothing in plans about wooden mast option. Plans are in poor shape, I'll need to copy them onto newer paper because they're falling apart. But is there anywhere that lists what should be in the full set.
Did get one set with the "newer" cabin profile but the rigging leaves a lot of questions. Hope you fellas don't mind sharing...
Soon I'll have to cut her free and load her up to bring to my house. Will need to build her a trailer, did trailer plans come with the set?
Thanks in advance for any and all help...
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27th May 2010, 11:09 AM #22Senior Member
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The trailer plans and the wooden mast plans can be bought seperately from the same NZ mob that I got the boat plans from.
I would suggest getting them from the NSW Hartley Association though (I think it was NSW) if you can becasue they also have other guides that will help give you some more detail about the build.
When I first started I was amazed at just how little details is in the plans in terms of what to do when and where to start.
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2nd June 2010, 09:28 AM #23New Member
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TS-16 decking options
Has anyone ever used cedar strips for the deck planking, cabin sides and top etc?
I am "inheriting" my TS-16 project from my brother who is moving out of state and the hull is nearly ready to turn over and begin top side work. My brother also builds wood strip canoes and I'm thinking it wood make a beautiful boat to have the top side work all strip work.
Does anyone recommend the wooden mast option?
Thanks in advance...
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2nd June 2010, 06:28 PM #24
Strip planking a deck was quite common in traditional building methods, though I wouldn't recommend it in a modern build. It is a fairly easy, if tedious method of getting a deck, but the end result is usually heavy (if strip dimensions are scaled to the strength necessary), not as strong as other methods (read plywood) and has a fairly high potential for leaking with all those seams.
Weight is a small boat preformance killer. The best deck and cabin you can build will be from plywood, sheathed in fabric and goo. No, not so romantic nor as good looking as a fancy strip job, but practical, strong, leak free and easier then a few hundred strips.
If you want a stripped look, consider veneers or very thin strips over a plywood substrate. You'll get the water tightness of plywood and the look of strips.
Sure a wooden mast is a nice option, though aluminum has much to recommend it too. If you plan on racing actively, then the aluminum spars would be the reasonable thing to do. If not and looks are your big thing, go with a varnished wooden (birdsmouth) set of spars. If you're going to paint the wooden spars, why bother with wood and just spring for an extrusion or T-6 tubing.
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2nd July 2010, 04:43 PM #25Senior Member
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Progress has been very slow over the last few months for a variety of reasons. Looking forward to getting some more done.
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23rd August 2010, 04:26 PM #26Senior Member
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I love the shape of the Hartley and we can really start to see that classic hull now.
A hiccup on the diagonal stringers but I will start another thread to ask about that.
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31st August 2010, 10:15 PM #27
Daddles, so cheap that I have a few spare sets for different sizes.... well maybe the real reason was I couldn't decide which one to build next... until the good wife said bigger is better.... started the 18' Vixen but the shed will be too small with all the machinery (and Rusty) inside. Decided to continue on retirement as a hobby... and have approval for a smaller home and larger shed from she who must be obeyed.
"May your dreams of today
be the reality of tomorrow"
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6th September 2010, 01:05 AM #28Senior Member
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Was a really good day today. Put on the final stringers and really got to see the shape finalised. It looks awesome.
AND we put on the first bit of ply.
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6th September 2010, 07:38 AM #29Senior Member
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Hereselmo1,
I built one of these about 10 years ago. In a strong breeze you'll pass boats twice your size down wind, have to watch out though and concentrate like *&^%. They surf like a bewdy with that big flat bum. Dont get too heavy an outboard either. Weight on the stern is a killer.
When you come to putting the bottom sheets on at bow. I used old towels with boiling water and a big freind to lean on 'em. They are about the worst bit.
Going well. Oh another thing. The mod that best suited the build was to one continuous floor in cabin so that you can build bigger bouyancy tanks in. The cockpit can be completely sealed in with tanks also. Ended up two cockpit and three cabin tanks. Put a couple of extra stringers in cockpit too. These were all mods approved by the association to get the certificate of compliance to the one design rule. Note also the dimensions of the cabin can be fiddled quite a bit to either headroom (ugly profile) or to lessen windage.
I wont go on any more. great job keep it up."World's oldest kid"
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19th November 2010, 01:44 AM #30New Member
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Hi, Just wondering if you or anyone has a rough estimate of the cost of materials for the ply version of the hartley ts16?
Much appreciated
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