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3rd September 2009, 10:59 AM #121
Watching video 2 of the Clovelly, I note that it rows with the bow in the water, thus slicing through the waves. In video 1, he's riding across the chop and the bow's constantly coming out of the water.
Translating that to the Little Black Dog, we'll be able to do the bow slicing through the water routine quite well. However, when chop forces the bow out of the water, the flat bottom means that the re-entry won't be as nice as the curved hull of the Clovelly. That right Mik?
As for that sliding oar gizmo, man that looks weird. Sorry, in my world, reducing moving/complicated parts is a good thing.
Richard
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3rd September 2009, 11:05 AM #122
Another interesting thing to note is that the old bloke (who's my sort of proportions) rowing the Adirondak Guideboat is bending at the waist far more than the bloke in the Clovelly. Difference in rowing styles or a difference caused by the equiptment?
And why this mania on rowing sites with 'fitness' and 'training' - it's like the cycling world where you've got to be out there trying to become world champion. What's wrong with rowing for no other reason than you LIKE IT! [/grump]
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3rd September 2009, 11:09 AM #123
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3rd September 2009, 06:05 PM #124SENIOR MEMBER
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3rd September 2009, 06:10 PM #125SENIOR MEMBER
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3rd September 2009, 06:30 PM #126
Richard, this is a stretched and slightly altered version of the previous RYD-12.6. It's designation is RYD-14.9 and has a length short enough to permit scarfed planks (just barely). She wouldn't make a good sailor, but would row very well.
Note the bottom panel is a half a meter aft of the stem and stern. This will keep the flat bottom from pounding in a chop or surf. Her ends are fine and V'd, but has sufficient buoyancy to lift to seas quickly. Her under water sections show a slight hollow at the ends, but only near the LWL. The middle section drawing shows half as many strakes (I left just the important ones). This would be a taped seam version of the same shape. You lose a touch of displacement and gain a little weight, but the method is easier to many folks. Freeboard is modest and could be raised if desired, though if it was me, I'd elect to leave the freeboard as is and use decks, accepting the trade off between rowing into a wind with higher freeboard or some spray. The transom is for a sweep, but could be a true double ender and no, the ends of the boat aren't identical in section. They're fairly close, but not quite, having a tad more volume aft of midship to accommodate a well fed rower.
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3rd September 2009, 07:07 PM #127
Mm...I like that and would leave the transom as drawn.
Ah so many boats, so little time.
BTW Richard all this talk about rowing I think you are warming us up to a UWBS-SA challenge something like this maybe. May have been posted earlier not sure but an interesting concept, guess for around here we would need to find some old wooden surf boats.
Mike
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3rd September 2009, 07:15 PM #128
That does indeed look very nice. She'd have to be built lapstrake, all those lovely planks
As for bizare feats, one does find oneself thinking about the Pt Vincent to Stansbury regatta (open water, the yachts usually take a few hours to do it)
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3rd September 2009, 07:30 PM #129SENIOR MEMBER
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Couple of questions on the 14.9.
At 42" beam she will car top. Great to be able to avoid trailers etc.
Beam is similar to a Guideboat. So, do you row with crossed oars, as per Guideboat ?
Would the plans come with developed plank shapes for glued clinker? For the fewer panel S&G?
Thanks, Brian
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3rd September 2009, 08:08 PM #130
Assuming a 9 mm for the bottom, with the rest in 6 mm, 1x2 inwales, thwart cleats, etc., plus a 12 mm thwart or two and canvas deck at both ends. You could bring in this hull in at around 50 pounds (110 kilo?) using Okoume, with well sorted joints and frugal epoxy use. Meranti would be in the 132 kilo (60 pound) range. If you used a 4mm decking at each end, say about a meter long, then it would add about 22 kilo (10 pounds) more to the boat. This would include a light beam or two for the deck to land on.
Rowing style would be a owner preference, though I suspect larger users will need to cross.
The original plans for this boat were a glued lap build. I tossed the taped seam in, to cut 4 strakes off the boat, while still offering a similar boat. At present I don't have intentions for this as a taped seam build, figuring it's a fairly easy conversion from the offsets, by a reasonable builder.
I generally don't offer plans with developed shapes. I've found they aren't especially accurate and that lining off is the only way to get truly fair plank runs.
Now, I'm sure a bunch of you are saying to yourself, how can computer generated images be that inaccurate. They're not, but when you transfer measurements to the station molds and planking stock, slight errors creep in and the parts become "application specific" or "unique", meaning they have enough discrepancies that you should line off the planks with a batten if you want smooth runs.
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Is that 50 lbs ( 22 kg) or 50kg (110 lbs). 6mm bottom and 4mm sides would be much easier to lift only a car top? Not tough enough?
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If it was agreed we were going from computer drawing to computer cnc cutting, would you consider supplying the files, plank shapes and all?
It's just I have a very experienced boat cutting CNC man available and I would like to try a project out with him. Are we talking about only 4 sheets, possibly 6?
Brian
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3rd September 2009, 08:48 PM #133SENIOR MEMBER
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Gavin Atkin has just put up some pictures of the model of the St. Ayles Skiff. very lovely.
http://intheboatshed.net/2009/08/28/...-rowing-skiff/
Brian
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3rd September 2009, 09:34 PM #134SENIOR MEMBER
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I put surf rowing into Google and this came up! Can see why the rear sweep is so important
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsuIs5VlIJE"]YouTube - surf boat rowing[/ame]
Brian
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3rd September 2009, 10:11 PM #135
I've always thought one needs to be a little crazy to enjoy rowing these guys confirm the thinking, gutsy stuff eh.
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