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    Default Told my floor can't be sanded

    Hi everyone
    I have just joined this forum. My plea for help is about my baltic floor boards in my kitchen. AFter many months of removing the glued on tiles (chipping away centimetre by centimetre literally) I had a professional sander come and tell me they can't be sanded. The reason is because there is too much black glue still on them and it would be too costly. I really love floor boards and am just hoping that someone knows of a way to remove the Shallack ( I think that is what it is called but unsure of the spelling) Any advice would be greatly appreciated

    Here's wishing
    Jacky

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    G'day.
    It may be cheaper to install a solid wood 12mm overlay floor over the top of the old floor.
    Just glue and nail to the old floor and sand and seal in the usual manner.
    Hooroo.
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    Could you post some photos?

    Cheers
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    Is it the Tar like glue? if it is hire an edger and buy some 24 grit pads from a flooring supplier. I recently got rid of 12-15sqm of the black tar like stuff for $60 hireage and $18 dollars of pads... I say buy the pads from elsewhere because i got them for 1/3rd the price of the hire shop...

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    What is the adhesive? was it used to adhere ceramic tiles? or is it the bitumen based adhesive used to adhere vinyl tiles?

    Usually with most adhesives you can use a diamond grinder with water(to stop clogging) and a squeegee to grind away the adhesive. Tip attack small sections at a time to keep the mess down. Also hiring a bigger upright grinder may be less aggressive than the 9" angle grinder type.

    Whatever the case if there's timber under there then it is just a case of cleaning the adhesive off, just depends on what your adhesive is to come up with the best method.

    Also as well as covering the old timber with new timber which you would then be wise to continue through the rest of the house intended for a hard floor, you may also think of making a feature out of your kitchen by installing designer vinyl plank or tiles of some description. Check out products by Karndean, Amtico, Gerflor, etc as they can look impressive and wear extremely well (used in supermarkets, etc these days). This method will only build your floor up by about 8mm in the kitchen and the "tile" look could contrast nicely with your Baltic floor boards.

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    Default photos of floor

    Sorry for taking so long but it took me a while to work out how to resize my photos and send them. Hope you can see clearly enough.
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    looks like bitumen adhesive to me, not that thick though. Could try scraping it off using a floor stripper machine, probably won't need a heavy duty one though, a hilti type with the scraper blade attachment will do (commonly found at Kennards, etc).That should get the bulk of it off and make it light enough for a drum sander to handle.

    Tip Sharpen the blade on one side only and have the sharpened side facing down as so you don't dig into your floor.

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    Thanks I will give that a go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackyswan View Post
    Hi everyone
    I have just joined this forum. My plea for help is about my baltic floor boards in my kitchen. AFter many months of removing the glued on tiles (chipping away centimetre by centimetre literally) I had a professional sander come and tell me they can't be sanded. The reason is because there is too much black glue still on them and it would be too costly. I really love floor boards and am just hoping that someone knows of a way to remove the Shallack ( I think that is what it is called but unsure of the spelling) Any advice would be greatly appreciated

    Here's wishing
    Jacky
    Gas bottle with burner attachment you can hire these also you'll need putty knife but most of all you need a gas mask.
    Last edited by scooter; 30th March 2008 at 07:48 PM. Reason: Half spam, half possibly useful advice. Guess what I deleted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by naturesbest View Post
    Gas bottle with burner attachment
    And these guys on 000...



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    I did look at my gas burner and thought Holy........ I don't think so. Thanks for the picture,

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    That floor can be sanded relatively easily, so I suggest you call in another floor sander to check it out.

    Also, have a squizz at this thread here where I have posted some pictures of glue removal just like yours.

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    Paint scraper, for that small area. Shovel for larger areas. Don't laugh, I did it for my place. Damn hard work but worthwhile in the end.
    Pat
    Work is a necessary evil to be avoided. Mark Twain

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    You can buy a tool called a floor scraper, bunnings even have them, and it will work quite well on that stuff. Keep it sharp using a file drawn across the tip face, keep those edges nice and crisp.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    we just took all the black stuff off using turps and a scraper got most of it off

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