Thread: Roof Painting - any advice

Originally Posted by silentC

Them's fight'n words, Jackie....

but sadly true

Is it really? I know America has a bad reputation and we're nowhere near the worst. I think we might be near the top per-capita. We are industrialised but have a small population, so judging on that basis makes us look bad. We also have a lot of livestock.

http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...toryid=1380028

yesterday's daily telegraph ( probably equivalent of the Age / Australian i.e. no busty blondes on page 3 ). Since being here I have been shocked at how profligate australians are with both energy and water. The uk has regular hose-pipe bans in summer. Here I still see sprinklers in use ( sometimes even in the rain ). I know more people in England with Solar Hot Water systems than I do in Melbourne ( its on my renovations list ). Petrol guzzling cars appear to be the norm here etc etc. hmm maybe this should be in another thread I suspect I could be being a bit contentious.

Never believe anything you read in the Daily Telegraph!!!

All that may be the case in Melbourne (cars, sprinklers etc.) but up here most people I know drive 4 cylinder cars and we have water restrictions on as I speak (it's not even summer).

Yes, maybe you should start another thread

I put in solar hot water last year.

But I drive a BIG MOTHER F#CKER V8 TOO.
See I care for the enviroment.

Al




Sorry

have opened a thread in Nothing to do with Woodwork ... so we can keep this one to roof paint

Geoff,
I had my concrete tiles done in 1997 and they look as good today as when they were done. the company concerned was Roofshield. They are in all states except WA & Tas it seems. They also provided a written 7 year guarantee.

Thanks Ken for your relevant comments, and getting this thread back on track. Pity the company isn't in WA - hopefully I can find something similar.

Ozwinner, I'm having trouble typing because every time I think of your comment it cracks me up.

Jackiew, I don't really want to get into a debate or argument over the colour of my roof however I find your comments rather discombobulating and I do take issue with them:

Firstly, I completely fail to see the relevance or connection between the colour of my roof and the Kyoto Protocol, let alone Russia's ratification of it or Australia's refusal to adopt it. Maybe I've missed something. :confused: Does the Kyoto Protocol outlaw back roof tops??? If so it is no wonder John Howard refuses to adopt it!

Secondly, to the heart of the issue you raise - the colour of my roof. The research I have done (and yes, I have done factual research because I was concerned about the effects of a dark coloured roof) shows that the effects of a black roof on the internal house temperature when the ceiling is properly insulated to be VERY minimal. Scientific tests conducted showed less than half a degree increase in temperature in the worst case scenario. In most cases the difference was not measurable. Combined with knowledge of how an evaporative air-conditioner works, I believe my conclusion that the net effect of a black roof will be negligible to be factual and sound.

Perhaps in future if you must make environmental or political statements you could at least ensure they are accurate and back them with relevant facts and information rather than babbling rhetoric and emotive comments that have no basis.

Finally, thankyou for taking your contentious environmental views to a more appropriate forum.

Geoff

Hi Geoff,

absolutely no offence was meant. I think I'm just exasperated at the "it doesn't matter what i do in the great scheme of things which I encounter every day and I fired off the post without reading properly and I do apologise for that. I didn't spot the bit about the insulation ( problem with hurridly reading a post while waiting for some code to compile ) and I didn't even know there was more than one type of air conditioner much less the differences in running costs etc Lets admit it i'd never even seen an air conditioner in a private home before I came to Australia and they still strike me as a little decadent You've obviously done your research and made the energy efficient choice. Having done a bit of reading i've suspect that all the rented houses and the house I've bought have not had evaporative air conditioning Certainly they none of them appear to have had any "maintenance requirements" or if they did I didn't maintain them ( not that i ever used them more than once or twice ... the noise was too much for me ). While in your case black paint on the roof might not have much of an effect I think one of the advantages of a Forum like this is that at least some of the issues get raised for people whose situation doesn't quite match yours. With (1995 stats ) only 51% of australian homes having roof insulation ( and there have been posts about installers only installing it round the loft hatch so if you think you've got it you mightn't have) there is around a 1 in 2 chance ( don't we all wish that were the odds for the lottery ) that someone thinking of painting their roof black doesn't have any insulation at all and they may well NOT have the most efficient air conditioner on the market.

I make no excuses for believing a lot of little savings can add up to one big saving whether it be energy or money or time

( a somewhat chastened ) Jackie

Geoff

We went through this process four years ago (Forrestfield, WA) and got differnt quotes including addresses of previous clients which we visited. Eventually settled on "DTS Restorations" (9379 2779) and are still very happy with their work. Apart from the cleaning and painting, there was a lot of repointing and tile replacement, in addition to gutter replacement to do, and it was all done to a very high standard.

All the best
Chris

g'day geoff,i'm in the roof restoration business, feel free to call me and i can let u know what the whole process should be on restoring a roof, and i will let u know which products are good and which are bad

sorry geoff,

my number is 1300-766964

Originally Posted by jackiew

Perhaps you could suggest to your wife that the savings in air conditioning costs over the next 10 years from choosing a more sensible colour could be put towards a holiday, new car, new charcoal coloured lounge suite?

Or shoes maybe??
Ah just kidding