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  1. #16
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    Rum Runner, thats a lovely boat. My father build one of that design about 45 yrs ago and for the life of me, I cant remember the design name. It was a great sea boat and we caught tons of fish in it. The memories come flooding back! It had a 250 falcon engine with shaft and prop arrangement but cant remember what sort of speed he used to get out of her althoug it was quick.

    Re the other Hartley queries, ive owned and lived aboard/cruised a 51ft Hartley "Dateline" cruising yacht for 4 yrs when my kids were younger. True to Hartley form, it too was a fantastic sea boat and a pleasure to own.

    Ive also owned a Hartley TS21 some time back although I sold it shortly after restoring her.

    Currently I have a 24ft gaff rigged sharpie that I built recently - not Hartley sorry
    Rgds
    Neil

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  3. #17
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    We're building a Hartley Marksman 37 in Scotland. We've started planking the hull. We've got a website at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/z8000736/main.html
    We'd be delighted to hear from anyone interested.
    Cheers,
    Roddy

  4. #18
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    Default 21 foot Hartley

    Hi Rum Runner
    Seems I must have missed your posting back then...... the boat looks great...... about to start building it's little brother.. an 18' Vixen.... still trying to decide between fitting an outboard or a stern drive as with yours....

    Glenn
    "May your dreams of today
    be the reality of tomorrow"

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    Default Go Roddy

    Hi Roddy
    A serious boat.... makes my next Hartley 18' Vixen look like a puppy....
    Have book marked your site and will watch the progress with great interest......



    Glenn in Adelaide, Sth Australia

    PS Also noted your joining the Hartley boat group on Yahoo.... welcome aboard..... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hartley_boats/

    Quote Originally Posted by rodv View Post
    We're building a Hartley Marksman 37 in Scotland. We've started planking the hull. We've got a website at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/z8000736/main.html
    We'd be delighted to hear from anyone interested.
    Cheers,
    Roddy
    "May your dreams of today
    be the reality of tomorrow"

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    I used to sail a Hartley/sparkle? tri a long time ago and from memory the stories were all about how the hartley brothers came to grief from various misadventures with their tri's can anyone tell me if this was true?

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    Default Misadventures of the Hartley boys

    Mate,
    Don't know about those stories... did read an article somewhere a long time back about Richard Hartley but can't recall anything about their misadventures in tri hulls.... I think Richard has been gone quite a few years now and hadn't been able to dabble with boats and designs for something like nearly 30 yrs... but his legacy continues.. A lot of the more recent improvements to designs etc I believe comes from his accomplice Colin Brookes over there in NZ. Colin I believe is still kicking around and involved in the business..... Maybe an email to him might shed some light on your query? [email protected]

    The Designers....Hartley boats have all been designed in house by Colin Brookes, Richard Hartley, Jock Read and John Avent.

    Glenn aka Aberdeen

    Quote Originally Posted by Bleedin Thumb View Post
    I used to sail a Hartley/sparkle? tri a long time ago and from memory the stories were all about how the hartley brothers came to grief from various misadventures with their tri's can anyone tell me if this was true?
    "May your dreams of today
    be the reality of tomorrow"

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    Default A Hartley NZ or Hartley USA

    Bleedin Thumb
    Just a thought... was it the ORIGINAL Hartley Boat designs from NZ or a more recent entrant in Trimaran designs from Lenoir, North Carolina USA ?

    http://www.trihulls.com/about.htm

    Glenn

    Quote Originally Posted by Bleedin Thumb View Post
    I used to sail a Hartley/sparkle? tri a long time ago and from memory the stories were all about how the hartley brothers came to grief from various misadventures with their tri's can anyone tell me if this was true?
    "May your dreams of today
    be the reality of tomorrow"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberdeen View Post
    Bleedin Thumb
    Just a thought... was it the ORIGINAL Hartley Boat designs from NZ or a more recent entrant in Trimaran designs from Lenoir, North Carolina USA ?

    http://www.trihulls.com/about.htm

    Glenn

    No Glen I'm talking about 1975-76 and the boat had seen a few years by then I'd guess mid 60's build at the latest.

    I'll do some research & get back to you.

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    Maureen & Barry Wright were charters of the Murray River. They did this from about 1973, and when they did a revision in 1987, they used a Hartley Trailer Sailer minus centre-board and mast.

    I harboured a secret desire to do this trip going upstream with sails. The Wrights did have a land based back-up group though. I think it may be a great boat to camp in.

    I thought I'd add this story, as it a part of our history that the Wrights charted the river and had a great seller in "River Murray Charts Renmark to Yarrawnga", which lots of people seemed to want to own badly.
    Buzza.

    "All those who believe in psycho kinesis . . . raise my hand".

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    Found this on the net.

    A good insight into what it was like sailing trimarans in the 70's. A lot of them seem to go down. Whenever you went on a long voyage every one would share their trimaran horror stories with you. It was one such session prior to a trip to Noumea when I heard of how the Hartley Bros came unstuck.
    These stories may be urban myth so it would be nice to know the truth.

    http://www.multihull.com.au/www/pdf/...is_to_glad.pdf

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    Default calling all hartley boat owners

    hi mate how u doin im a 20 yr old male living in sydney and a very proud owner of a hartley built 1968 14.72m half cabin. Dont know too much about these boats and very excited too see this forum. Ive owned my boat allitle under a year and it has seen better days the old bloke i bought it off was the second owner of this and glassed it with fibre glass locking in moisture now threating to destroy my pride and joy. Wanting infomation on these boats and would love any help from what seems very proud ppl building and restoring Hartleys boats

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    I built a Hartley tri and they never bothered to reply to a couple of letters I sent them while I was building. A few days ago I asked for them to put me in touch with people who had built the designs I am now interested in building myself and they refused, I asked for pictures and pointed out that their website has very little information on. Their response was It's unfortunate that you feel our website and ideas are so bad, we also feel it would be better if you took your business elsewhere, we don't need customers like you and the possibility of us connecting you with any of our other obviously happy customers is of course absolutely zero." I suggest that anyone wanting to build looks elsewhere. Bruce Roberts is very helpful, Mike Waller is great, Ian Farrier always helps. The Hartley boat group seems to e barely alive, I'm not surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mabelsgift View Post
    I built a Hartley tri and they never bothered to reply to a couple of letters I sent them while I was building. A few days ago I asked for them to put me in touch with people who had built the designs I am now interested in building myself and they refused, .
    Hi mablesgift,

    I have just found this site and Saw your post.
    I have just aquired a sparkle/ lively28. and I have orderd a sett of plans and have now waited for 2 weeks.Short curt reply to any inqureies as to when Iwill receive the plans. not impressed so far.
    Fortunatly I all ready have the boat and wanted the plans to check on the cross beams, as the originals (if they are) have rotted away and fell apart.
    where are you in uk? Do youstillhave the tri.

    Cheers

    Kim

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    G'day gentlemen and any ladies reading,
    Re Hartley Service etc.... sadly Richard HARTLEY passed away many, many years ago.
    I had great success with queries some maybe 5 years ago and corresponded with his original partner (and co-designer and designer in his own right) Colin BROOKS. I believe even back then Colin was only taking an interest in the business and not involved full time... given his age....

    I can now only assume Colin has either passed away also or is too old to effectively 'steer' the new generation in customer service. I had a couple of what could be described as terse replies back then and they didn't originate from him.

    It could only be assumed that the business of old and the fantastic assistance has now fully migrated to someone who really doesn't care, or worse still doesn't know anything about the designs or business principals and ethics.....

    If so, it is a sad chapter in this wonderful historic enterprise...
    "May your dreams of today
    be the reality of tomorrow"

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    G'day, A, how are you going........ as to the Hartley issues, yes they have dropped off the "Service" so tospeak, i waited about four weeks for my plans and never got an answer to any of the questions at all point blank

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