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Thread: Insurance Worries
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31st July 2012, 05:10 PM #1New Member
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Insurance Worries
Hello all,
I am in the process of buying a 17ft 1950 clinker half-cabin cruiser but have been very disappointed with the response fom insurance companies. Basically they are saying that the boat is too old or in one case wasn't valued at over $1000 per ft so they wouldn't cover it. It appears also that there have been new guidelines issued to insurance companies and from what I've found out it would make small wooden boats uninsurable. Most brokers point to either Club Marine or Nautilus who have both said no to me. There are some minor points in the Marine Survey (loose propeller, small amount of deterioration in the top plank at the stern, sealant in the garboard seam, boat needs anti-fouling) that need attention but nothing that affects the structure of the boat which is currently moored on open water.
So, two points. Has anyone else encountered this? And if you have insurance renewal coming up then you'd better check to see if you can get coverage.
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2nd August 2012, 11:16 AM #2Senior Member
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Welcome to the Forum Fillwood. Also welcome to the minefield called Marine Insurance. My boat goes up the slip this weekend for anti fouling and survey for insurance. I have had a few wins with insurance re surveys feel free to PM me for some hints. Re the survey you have, I would suggest that a "loose propeler" would definatley be a show stopper. If the boat needs anti foul, may I suggest you slip it and get some sort of reciept stateing the prop is secure. Re faults with hull you could also take some before and after photos of repairs before re submiting survey.
Ian L
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2nd August 2012, 05:51 PM #3New Member
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Thanks Ian L
I will PM you but what I have now done is purchase the boat and I'm running the risk with no insurance until such time as the required work is complete. The boat is being transported (with an insured carrier) from Cronulla to Port Macquarie tomorrow 3rd August and when the boat is back in the water on Saturday morning I will drive it about 300 metres upstream to a slipway where it will be until I get the work done - followed by another survey and back into the insurance mire.
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3rd August 2012, 04:37 PM #4
Insurance companies work on perceived values, speculated durability, calculated longevity and expected claim rate.
As wooden boats age, all these this decrease the cost effective nature of insurance companies being able to make a profit. This said, there are specialty insurance companies that are willing to take on these higher risk policies, typically at higher cost. Look for companies that advertise in hod rod and antique aircraft magazines. These companies will also often take on boats, because they make money differently then the projected risk analyses, of the major insurance outfits. They usually just accept a "declared" value and insure this. Naturally, they'll want to see a good survey, but even a boat in bad shape can be insured, under certain circumstances.
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