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Thread: Bedside Tables WIP
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3rd November 2007, 10:27 PM #1
Bedside Tables WIP
Hi all,
I have had this project on the go for some time now a pair of bedside tables for my daughter who having moved out of the nest is in need of some furniture. She is a patient soul as the departure actually happened about 18 months ago.
Anyway after searching for designs I decided on your basic single drawer, tapered leg affair based on a style for a hall table shown on Milton Woodshop for those of you with Fox.The wood is Tasmanian Myrtle with Jarrah lipping and a framed Myrtle burl veneer top.
Pic1 Sketchup of the design thanks to Martrix
Pic2 I made a mock up out of Oregon to check dimensions and make sure I was happy with the flush top, don't think I am really. It works on a hall table but the bedside is too narrow so will go with a traditional tapered overhang and the legs look a little short so will be 20mm longer.
Pic3&4 The rails are too deep at 135 so have trimmed this side at 118 proportions look better to me but this will mean the drawer will be shallow with dividers that are only 16mm hope that works OK.
Pic5 Got the myrtle in 900x230x30 boards and some veneer, first mistake as I should have got a couple at 50 for the legs but the supplier only had 30 and wanted the colour to be consistant. In hindsight colour difference is far preferable to a glue line So I'm ready to go, nup I thought the boards would be dry but as it turned out a few months ago at 17% I know this because I left a piece on my table saw(as per pic) over night and guess what yes rust should have realised as the wood was cold to touch so I borrowed a moisture meter to confirm. Ah well stickered them up for a few months and advised the customer of the delay, plenty more projects to go on with.
I think this WIP will actually turn into a catalogue of what not to do when working with wood
MikeMike
"Working to a rigidly defined method of doubt and uncertainty"
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3rd November 2007, 11:05 PM #2
Contd.....
Fast forward OK myrtle down to 11% probably not really dry enough but tried some resawing and see what happens. As the legs are 39x39 need to glue a 12mm strip to the inner edge of each one as the taper will hopefully disguise most of the glue line, not ideal but there it is.
I ripped the legs after selecting the best grain angle that will flow with the tapers.
Pic1 Resaw the strips and glued up using my new cabinetmasters ordered just prior to the great besseyclamp order
Resawed the rails and made the next mistake got all carried away and planed and thicknessed to just over finished dimension.
Pic2 Oops should have left to rest for a week or so as some of them have cupped even after I stickered and clamped. Mmm bit more planing to do and thanks to this forum I am now using a hand plane with reasonable confidence, its amazing what a difference a sharp blade makes. A hand scraper to finish off nice.
Put all this to one side while I cut the mortises in the legs after planing to size. Using loose tenon joints for the rails and as I manage to mess up when using a router free hand I screwed a fence to my tenon jig so I could machine the mortises on the router table.
Pic3 I use two stops in the mitre track to set the mortise length, set the fence to allow for a 1.5mm set back of the rail and with a 1/4 spiral bit it is dead easy to run the jig back and forth. After cutting one set I move the stop to cut the mortises on the adjacent face as the leg must be rotated 180deg if you know what I mean.
Back to the rails, I decided to cut the mortises before adding the Jarrah lipping so need to finish flattening and cut to length. That done and setting both the jig carriage depth and stops I cut the rails. It takes a while about 4mm in each pass but the triton makes it easy and as the work piece is clamped firm there is no chance of a slip up.
MikeMike
"Working to a rigidly defined method of doubt and uncertainty"
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4th November 2007, 09:00 PM #3
Cont 2
With the mortises cut I milled the tenons don't have the right size router bit so a bit of planing and filing to round the edges. Next cut some glue slots with a dremel, there must be an easy and safe way but I can't think of it.
Next I drilled the lower stretcher dowel holes in stretcher and legs again using the TS tenon jig this method is dead on accurate as for the second hole simply adjust the depth of the fence the setting is then consistent for all holes/cuts. I decided to use dowels rather than tenons as I have trouble doing a single tenon let alone doubles. Bit of a problem I didn't check closely the dowel dia which is 6mm and used the 1/4 spiral bit which is 6.3 give or take so the dowel is a bit loose will use epoxy so it should be OK.
With the lower stretchers done I cut dovetails for the uppers did a dry fit and marked the legs another little error I found later was clamping the upper too tight when marking out this later left a slightly larger glue line at the tail end in the joint than I would have liked.
Pic2 Shows the leg joints hope they don't twist no sign yet.
Pic3 I knocked up a tapering jig for the legs what do you recon is the toggle clamp big enough
Next resaw some jarrah at 5mm for the lipping from some salvaged floor boards over 70 years since layed it almost seems too dry as I got significant splitting when cross cutting as the Pic shows.
Pic5 Numbered all the joints after a scraping a final dry fit and taped against squeeze out. I'm not sure about doing this as it still takes me ages to clean off the tape and glue when dry, I think cleaning the joint as you go is better but as I am using epoxy like this for the first time its a bit of insurance.Mike
"Working to a rigidly defined method of doubt and uncertainty"
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4th November 2007, 10:25 PM #4
Cont 3
The glue up went well although I messed around for too long on the first one and the glue was going off for the second getting a bit gluggy.
Pic1 Clamped up with some new besseys thanks Martin.
Pic2 In between mortising and things I glued up the veneer tops bookmatched myrtle burl on 19mm mdf on the one on thr right I added some red/brown oxide to try a hide the glue line, think I need more veneer practice.
Pic3 Made a mitre jig to cut the frames works pretty well
Pic4 Mitre turned out well needs a bit more work at the jarrah join otherwise pretty happy.
Pic5 Dry fit used biscuits for both the mdf and mitre joints may ket the mitre yet I will decide at the finish as I think it may look a bit busy.
I have been practicing my french polishing on the veneer as I hope it will help with squeeze out. Think I need some lessons though I'm ok up to stiffening up but end up with tram tracks not sure what I'm doing wrong.Mike
"Working to a rigidly defined method of doubt and uncertainty"
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27th December 2007, 09:36 PM #5
Drawers
Bit of a delay but have been back on the job.
Pic 1 Total brain fade when sawing shoulder
Pic 2 Measured for the base groove still managed to get it wrong
Pic 3 Um got carried away and cut the base groove on top edge instaed of bottom
Pic 4 Reground cheap chisel to cut dovetails
Pic 5 Using through tenons for the drawerbacks and yep got the router set up screwed up so mortice too long on one of them
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27th December 2007, 09:52 PM #6
Turning tragedy into triumph
Despite some setbacks its coming together
Pic 1 Made a jewelry tray to inset on runners glued into the grooving mistake
Pic 2 As one drawer has a jewelry tray made a divider for the other drawer sort of his and hers cut a mini sliding dovetail to retain the divider.
Pic 3 Fixed the tenon mistake with a filler piece worked out OK
Pic 4 Made a pull from jarrah but number 1 the designer said it was too bulky so second attempt Pic 5 was made from myrtle using a woody round, you can't get this profile froma router bit
Anyway getting close now just have to finish polishing the tops.
BTW I polished the burl before glueing up the frames and when scraping I have gone through in spots question is do I need to sand shellac right back or keep adding to fix?
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27th December 2007, 10:38 PM #7
I like it. Love the way you did the drawers. I think drawers deserve a lot of attention but people tend to ignore it. I love the dovetails and the handle too. Beautiful handle.
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27th December 2007, 11:09 PM #8
Small dovetails
Bit more to add
Inspired by Dereks dovetail marker I made a saw guide and with the aid of a veritas detail chisel cut the small sliding dovetail in the divider.
The jewelry tray is finger jointed using Roger Gifkins new 5mm cutter an F5 template, wow is it great. Black flocking applied to the tray and divider.
Cheers Mike
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28th December 2007, 10:02 PM #9
Some beautiful work coming together here . . . and goodonya for showing us how you're living up to your name.
That tiny sliding dovetail is very impressive. I wonder if you could have used your saw guide to do a stopped tapered sliding dovetail? I usually do them freehand because they're much more forgiving of errors.
Watching with interest . . .Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.
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29th December 2007, 10:54 AM #10
Thanks Wongo, I like drawer making it takes concentration just have to learn what to concentrate on The handle profile was done with a #12 moulding round. I got Larry Williams DVD on making escapement planes for Xmas now totally hooked on them.
Not totally sure what you mean Zen how would you cut a stopped trench, but by shimming the front fence you could introduce a taper would need to be very fine. As for cutting it well you've seen what I do when sawing . Thanks for the comments.
Hope to have them done in about a week this hot weather has put a stop to the polishing.
Cheers Mike
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29th December 2007, 08:29 PM #11
Gee thats a big bloody 5c piece!
Nice work Mike.....................................................................
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9th June 2008, 09:43 PM #12
Finally got around to taking some pics today of the finished article, customer is delighted.
Sorry about the poor quality pics I need some practice at this photography lurk.
Mike
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10th June 2008, 10:27 AM #13
Beautiful work, Mike. Look forward to seeing it in real life at the up-coming barbie--hint-hint?
Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.
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10th June 2008, 10:52 AM #14
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10th June 2008, 11:08 PM #15
Nice work!
Maybe you can hit up Studley at the meet up for a few photography tips.....................................................................
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