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  1. #46
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    Marios,
    While I agree that there are many other problems with our legal and public health systems, I find animal abuse difficult to deal with as they obviously dont have a say. Yeah I know that you can say that indigenous people aren't given opportunities but at least they have the ability to get together and be heard. Its hard to explain but I hope you know what I mean.

    I am not saying that animal abuse is the leading problem in our society but I am concerned that when action is available to be taken, ie when somebody is caught, there isn't harsh enough action taken. An animal doesn't have the ability to change its situation, if its being abused it has no option.

    Another few cases that I recall to get off the dog and cat path include the kicking to death of penguins by school children whilst on camp, the kangaroo that was found with an arrow in its neck hopping around a country town and the seals that have been shot with a arrow.

    DaveInOz, I must say that that situation would make me sick also. I don't mind cleanly and quickly shooting the roos, but to kick it to death after the initial shot didn't work is wrong. I have no idea how much a bullet is but is the extra $0.50 or so really going to break the bank? Another $5 at the end of the night. I cringe to even think about trying to kick and animal as hard as I can to kill it, perhaps I am weak?

    I did hear once that fish do not feel pain .... I don't know if that is correct or not. Its hard to tell ..... perhaps that just don't show the pain that they feel. I don't like fishing anyway and don't eat fish.

    Killing for sport seems wrong ..... if you have a look at duck shooting and ask a shooter why they shoot what are they going to say?
    "I enjoy shooting a moving target" .... if this is the case what is wrong with shooting a clay target?

    If they are not eating 100% of their catch then they must just enjoy killing.
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    I can hardly call fishing cruel, just had two days away with youngest daughter and we supported 5 families who have tackle shops, one family who hire boats, one family who run a motel, numerous families who run service stations and a couple of McDonalds franchises.
    Never got a bite..................
    Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain
    I can hardly call fishing cruel, just had two days away with youngest daughter and we supported 5 families who have tackle shops, one family who hire boats, one family who run a motel, numerous families who run service stations and a couple of McDonalds franchises.
    Never got a bite..................
    Maybe its just as well Iain,, big macs are junk food full of Cholestorol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturdee
    I hope that you are really a doctor not just working as one.

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    I'm far too lazy to dig up the facts but I recall some time ago it being pointed out by wildlife protection groups that cute fluffy animals attracted more public interest than "ugly" scaly ones, even if they were equally endangered. Also noted (it was a British report) was that animals with "English" in their common name could also pull more than their fair share of donations.

    I'm loyal to my species and at crunch time I'll side with Humans over all else, however- all life is precious and I'll never kill anything without a good reason (hunger being one good reason) and I couldn't count the number of times I've saved moths and spiders from drowning in the toilet, even directly after I've used it.

    I can't separate the issues of animal and human welfare; one is a reflection of the other. If we accept the needless suffering of animals (taking the view that some suffering in life is inevitable) we also become inured to the pain of our fellow human beings.

    I spent years not eating anything that I wouldn't be prepared to kill (fish OK) until one night I had dinner with a friend who had recently converted to (Tibetan) Buddhism. She was eating steak. Normally I wouldn't presume to question another's beliefs but...she explained that some Buddhist sects believed that it was fine to eat meat as long as the animal wasn't killed specifically for you and that a prayer was said to help the animal acheive a human rebirth.

    Naturally I thought to myself, "****, if Buddhists can find a way to justify eating meat, what am I eating tofu for?!?".

    As for crime and punishment, I don't believe the law provides any deterrent in any case. Those among us who try to lead good lives don't need the threat of punishment to keep us on the straight and narrow. If you're so inclined to commit acts of cuelty towards people or animals, you're not going to stop and think "Geez, better not decapitate this kitten, I might get done for it", are you?

    I've heard that at long last male attitudes to rape are changing, so that it is now widely viewed as the abhorrence that it is. Perhaps cruelty to animals needs to under go a similar metamorphosis, along the lines of a real-men-don't-torture-and-kill-defenceless-creatures campaign.

    Ahh, long-winded but bugger it, I cleaned my shed today, that gives me the right to say what I like!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturdee
    To me the whole legal system needs to be overhauled with effective minimum and maximum sentences.
    Bring back mandatory sentencing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Groggy
    It's an imperfect system, they all are. But if you want action, go and meet your local member, face-to-face, and get angry. We, as Australians, get the laws and politicians we deserve - because we are too complacent (in general).

    Edit: I've added this as the tone of the above paragraphs is not right. If it seems I am in some way disagreeing with your sentiments, I'm not. My comments contain some frustration at Aussies in general who are apathetic about the political process and don't get involved, therefore the situation doesn't improve and their complaints become self-fulfilling prophesy.

    When opinion is strong enough and forced on the pollies they do listen (whatever their motivation may be).
    I agree!!!

    having worked for the RSPCA, I have seen some terrible things come through the gates, with the dog/cats owner handing it in, and the inspectors sitting back and saying, "thats $75 for handing it in"... ???? Had many arguements with them, saying they should be taking these people to court... responses were " well if we start doing that, they wont hand them in"....

    So what do you do when RSPCA wont even enforce the law, they made???

    The govt are killing innocent dogs everyday in Logan and restricting more and more in other councils all over Australia.

    You should have to take a test or gain a licence to have children and animals. If you beat a child to death with your bare hands, you would never see the outside world again.

    the law is just pathetic, and makes us look stupid for allowing such petty sentences go unnoticed.

    Go to your local MP, talk with them, make them take in your complaint and follow up. If they don't respond, go to the local news paper and tell them how your MP wont listen.

    When it comes to votes, they will want to listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastie
    What really happened to the cat, Silent?
    Silent, deny everything.

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    Silent by name...
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

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    I was browsing the internet yesterday and found a photo of Silent cuddling TWO PERSIAN CATS :eek:

    And LOVING IT :eek: :eek:

    I downloaded the photo to my computer, but this morning, a hacker broke into my computer and DELETED IT :mad:

    An investigation by my ISP has failed to come up with a name but they do know that the culprit is reknown for UNDERARM BOWLING :eek:

    But to make matters worse, that same hacker has left a pop-up that claims that the persian cats were really ROTWEILLERS IN DISGUISE :eek:

    But it's okay now. I've had a chat with my medicating physician and she assures me that the new, pink pills will make these hallucinations go away ... either that or make me post complete untruths about respected members of this community on the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gemi_babe
    I agree!!!


    Go to your local MP, talk with them, make them take in your complaint and follow up. If they don't respond, go to the local news paper and tell them how your MP wont listen.

    When it comes to votes, they will want to listen.
    Good advice. I've always said, WRT my local member, that you don't keep a dog and bark yourself.
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    I was browsing the internet yesterday and found a photo of Silent cuddling TWO PERSIAN CATS
    I wasn't cuddling them, I had them in headlocks. Headlocks, I tell's yah!!!
    "I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."

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