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    Default Break in & robbery. Security doors for French doors?

    G'day all
    Well, some a-hole literally smashed a french door apart on our house yesterday, allowing access through gap between french doors. Fortunately I had previously installed sliding lock bolts to top of doors so french doors couldnt be opened apart.
    This stopped large items being removed from house. We lost jewellery & watches, maybe $2500 worth. Fortunately other items were in a safe. But you get lazy, and dont always put everything in the safe all the time.
    It musta been a quick smash & grab, coz our dog would have been aware someone was in the house.
    So, my question is, can anyone recommend secure screen solutions that are installed inside french doors? We have 2 pairs of french doors, and they are the weak link as far as security goes. Other windows have secure screens on them.
    I have seen the rollout from the side screen doors, but don't know how secure they are.
    It's a really $hitty feeling being broken into. One that is gunna cost me quite a bit in excess and increased security measures. But, it has to be done.

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    Its a terrible feeling, but I would resist turning your home into a fortress based on a single event.

    Are you insured?

    Its disgraceful that insurers charge excesses and increase your premiums based on the actions of others.

    There is a case right now in the ACT courts where the NRMA sued a thief for his costs to them. About time.

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    Bear traps... lots and lots of bear traps... filthy bludgers

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    Yes, insured. But at some cost and excess[emoji35]
    I like the bear traps idea [emoji1303]

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    Security cameras are the best deterrent IMO. I installed our first system 9 years ago after a couple of petty thefts from our cars and nothing has happened since. I like the hard wired systems, more difficult to install but once the Siamese cables are up it's simple to change components as they fail and you won't go bankrupt buying batteries.
    Innovations are those useful things that, by dint of chance, manage to survive the stupidity and destructive tendencies inherent in human nature.

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    Gunna look at rollout security screens, and I expect cameras are gunna happen.
    Hard wired I reckon.

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    I use the wifi ones. Just plug in the power, no need to worry about cabling everywhere.

    Software for a PC in a cupboard: https://www.ispyconnect.com/

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    We live in a QLDer, we have had some small items stolen but always feel our freedom and safety ( fire) is more important than getting carried away with security, we don't have cameras but IMO this is one option that doesn't restrict leaving the house in a hurry whilst giving some piece of mind.


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    Hi Graham, make sure you don't use the tooth brush, some that break into homes have a disgusting habit that requires the use of a tooth brush.
    Got broken into a couple of times, it's the feeling of invasion of privacy more than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodPixel View Post
    I use the wifi ones. Just plug in the power, no need to worry about cabling everywhere.

    Software for a PC in a cupboard: https://www.ispyconnect.com/
    I am a bit of an IT Luddite when it comes to this stuff.
    Willing to learn though.
    I presume:
    I need 240V for each camera.
    Use existing wifi
    That's about if for me [emoji57]

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    Clearguard?
    The video is pretty average but it gives you an idea on how tough it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubernoob View Post
    Clearguard?
    The video is pretty average but it gives you an idea on how tough it is.
    Have you installed this glass?
    Similar to laminated 5mm I guess!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by graham.murfett View Post
    Have you installed this glass?
    Similar to laminated 5mm I guess!?

    No not this type but we did have a business many years ago and had one of the earlier types and it probably slowed the cheeky sods down but from memory the seals let go and allowed them to push the whole pane in. After that the insurance company said we had to have a roller door.

    If you have roof tiles it's pretty easy to get in through them, no point in making your house ugly because of one burglary.
    This is the film in the video above, it would have been nice to see a larger test window used.
    http://cleargardaustralia.com/

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    Locks only keep honest people out, a big hammer straight through a wall gets into any brick veneer house in about one minute flat.
    CHRIS

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    A mate of mine installed security cameras. Four nights later they were all stolen.
    My Dad was a detective ,Breaking Squad, They put on a demo night for other cops on the different methods used. Dad invited me along to see how it was done these days. Wow, talk about easy. Methods you would never think of; Cup of dry ice and a diamond ring. Panel beaters porta power in a sports kit bag. Bitch on heat to keep the guard dog entertained just to name a few. It was a real eye opener.
    Insurance aint cheap, but after three robberies we've well and truly got our money back.

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