Thread: Bustin' caps in the asses of Newbs, Newbies and other un-Australianisms

Originally Posted by Ellemcbeast

Cone on gentlemen and ladies.
Enough of the language analysis and back to the shed where anything can be said, whether in jest or in anger.
And some of those words can not be analysed, are not printable, but have universal meaning.
Lets cut wood!!!

A peacemaker! Oi!

Nar, let the flogging continue. We Seppos can take it. At least this one can.

Woodwould, I am perfectly willing to stop referring to our language as English if blokes who say drongo and ocker will reciprocate.

This thread has to be perilously close to being DRIVEL.

Is this all you have to worry about

Originally Posted by Honorary Bloke

Woodwould, I am perfectly willing to stop referring to our language as English if blokes who say drongo and ocker will reciprocate.

You'd have to negotiate with the Aussies on the forum about that. Aussies typically add vernacular words and expressions to the English language rather than adulterate it (bought and brought excepted).

Originally Posted by Howdya do that

Is this all you have to worry about

At present, yes.

Originally Posted by Woodwould

You'd have to negotiate with the Aussies on the forum about that. Aussies typically add vernacular words and expressions to the English language rather than adulterate it (bought and brought excepted).

Well, how many angels can dance on the head of YOUR pin?

You have the advantage of me, sirrah! It is time for bed over here and you lot are only getting started. But, like MacArthur to the Philippines, "I shall return."

Meanwhile, you Prisoners Of Mother England can try to kick a donkey, but will likely not succeed.

Personally, I love extra words like these as they allow you to pack more contextual meaning into a sentence. It also means you can ostracise those who actually say 'LOL' in a real-life conversation. Kekeke.

Sorry but geek speak will NEVER be cool. I mean, if someone learns all the words (not hard when most of them are in Wikipedia) does that suddenly make them awesome? No, it does not. It makes them try-hard losers. They remind me of the computer shop guy from the Simpsons.

Honorary Bloke, be careful with expressions like "Prisoners Of Mother England". Whilst it has become fashionable to believe that to be the origin of one of our vernacular sayings, there is not historical evidence to support that claim.

There is no record of the expression ever having been used until the latter part of the 20th. century. Certainly, when suggested as an origin for the expression "Pom", or "Pommy", the fact that alliterised acronyms were rarely, if ever, found in 18th and 19th Century English makes it almost impossible.

(your History Professor *grin*)

Originally Posted by BobL

Humm . . . . . "Back in my day" , "Cone on" use to mean "keep smoking pot"!

It goes to show how language evolves.

The n in 'cone' is a typo, it should have been an 'm', my error.

Bob, your modern translation of the typo seems does not seem out of place in this discussion

Re Pommie.
Prisoner of Her/his Majesty??
Also, the pale skin, when exposed to the strong sun of Aus, split open like a Pomegranate!!(cf Yank "Limey" from the habit of Brit seafarers eating limes to ward off scurvy).

From the mine of useless info in what passes for my brain!!

The origin of "Pom" is not confirmed. OED favours a contraction of pomegranate as rhyming slang for immigrant.

Originally Posted by Woodwould

I really wish the Septics would refrain from refering to their language as "English". It's not and it's an insult to English-speaking peoples. English is your language - use it and support it before it's totally consumed by the internet and Septic media.
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To add my 2$. Commercial media, who have much to blame for, have forgotten the correct usage of 'is' and 'are'. 'Is' is singular, while 'are' is plural. It's no wonder kids of today can't use correct grammar, let alone spell . Watch any commercial news channel and you'll see what I mean, at least Aunty and SBS uphold correct grammar.

And to which Howdya referred, you mob outta move over to Drivel on Fridays. Some of you used to contribute in there.

Language is a perennial problem as is pronunciation.
These days pronunciation is suffering badly. English has several instances where words arepronounced in a different way to the written text. i.e London. This does not stop people getting things wrong. I have noticed several cases recently of the misuse of U and O.Take conjurer. It shoud be prom\nounced with a U as cunjerer. And as for the TwOts who pronounce it TwAt it sums them up perfectly.
Problem of leverage instead of leeverage. Would the same person use a leever or a lever. Could go on but most of you have many such examples.
But mangled English will always be with us. I keep meaning to compile a list when I can find time.
Pet hate at present is Outage. Whenever power FAILS we have an outage. Why?
Head a beauty a few days ago that can only come from the Seppos. Try this one Exoticiize. Fair took my breath away.
Not much we can do however. The French fight to save their language with a monumental pride, but therein the middle of a sentance will be "le football."

jerry

Pronunciation has always been regional, even in Australia in some cases. My Dad still says sand castle with a as in cat, whereas I have learnt (learned?) to pronounce it with a as in car.

Do you take vit-amins or vite-amins? Do you eat yo-ghurt or yoh-ghurt? Most British people I know say vit and yog. I say vite and yoh. So am I wrong? Brits hoover their carpets. Hoover is an American company, so what happened there?

I can live with these things. What I hate is "would of ..." instead of "would've ..." or "would have ..."

Siolent,

Having been born and raised in England, I am of course aware of regional accents. South Bus north Boos. My real point was that what can be regarded as fundamental pronunciation ( i used London) as example are being lost that far worse is the odd acceptance of American pronunciation in certain localised uses of a word, hence my illustration of leever and lever. We seldom mispronounce these two but leverage falls into a different category. Anther pet hate in this field is staytus and status.
However pronunciation in my argument was almost a side issue, my real thrust was towards "mangalization"

Jerry