Thread: LOL Census...they said it wouldn't happen!

Originally Posted by Yanis

They had four DDOS attacks. The problem with this type of thing is that DDOS a tacks are impossible to guard against. They say it was from overseas.

John

Hi Yanis,

That is not the case. There are well recognised safeguards which can be taken. Did they try some? Don't hold your breath for a confession here.

But..........could I do better? Not saying.

Cheers

Contracting company was IBM, who I gather are better at writing their contracts than their clients are at reading them.

Originally Posted by q9

Contracting company was IBM, who I gather are better at writing their contracts than their clients are at reading them.

This is the gospel right here. IBM are well known in the industry for underperforming and then pointing to their iron clad contracts for reasons why theyre not liable.

Finally able to log back in and complete. Luckily 3/4 was auto saved before site crashed.
Tried getting on site multiple times today but finally was successful. Not bad 95.5 hours after starting I finished. Longest survey ever!

As usual the ABC has a good take on this

TT

I haven't completed the online census yet - tried to on Tuesday but the site was down. I don't mind giving statistical (relatively general) information to the lying scumbag politicians and lying scumbag bureaucrats but they won't be getting my name and address and certainly not the name and address of my employer.

If they cross reference the answers for our family they will be scratching their peverbials trying to cross reference everything.

Try swoping your first and last names around, addresses......opps must be dyslexcic got that wrong.

I don't understand all the fuss about the names and addresses and your employer and location.

From memory these questions have been there all the time. The only new thing is that they want to retain your name and address for a longer period.

What annoys me is that they presume I wanted to do this online, and thus have to upgrade my computer, just so that more data entry people can be sacked and made unemployed.

Hence I submitted my census in a paper form.

Peter.

Originally Posted by harry wall

I haven't completed the online census yet - tried to on Tuesday but the site was down.

Two tries would be my "fed up" point. If they want the info then they can at least have the good grace to make it reasonably easy to give it to them rather than expecting we'll spend half the month trying.

This doesn't sound good for online election voting.....

Originally Posted by Sturdee

I don't understand all the fuss about the names and addresses and your employer and location.

Simple Peter - they can't be trusted not to let the data escape (with an online form...and maybe even paper). Identity theft is a big concern. I shred EVERYTHING that has my name/address on it, or even the name of the sender if they are friends. ID thieves don't need much info to get going.

They simply don't need to know my name, only my location (as opposed to address) to make the data 100% useful. My name isn't required on an election ballot form, and I see no difference whatsoever.

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

My name isn't required on an election ballot form, and I see no difference whatsoever.

True, but you are marked of from the electoral roll which shows your full name and full address.

This electoral roll is available for anyone to peruse at the Electoral office at any time as in my working life this was one of the tools we used to track delinquent borrowers.


Peter.

Originally Posted by Sturdee

True, but you are marked of from the electoral roll which shows your full name and full address.

This electoral roll is available for anyone to peruse at the Electoral office at any time as in my working life this was one of the tools we used to track delinquent borrowers.

Not true in all cases. You can be enrolled as a "Silent Voter".

Cheers

Doug

Originally Posted by Sturdee

I don't understand all the fuss about the names and addresses and your employer and location.

From memory these questions have been there all the time. The only new thing is that they want to retain your name and address for a longer period.

Hi Peter

the fuss is what ABS plan to do with your personal information this time. In the past personal information was retained only long enough to check for duplication -- this time the plan is to link it to all other sources of Government data. Four years is long enough for the current fuss to die down before doing the linking.

Originally Posted by Sturdee

True, but you are marked of from the electoral roll which shows your full name and full address.

Also true, but that data (my vote - should I make one) isn't linked to it, unlike the Census form. Of course the Govt already knows who I am and where I live, but they don't particularly know how or what I think, and I like it that way. They can track what I spend my money on if they want to, and they can track more or less where I go (if I use trains, where I fill up with petrol and how often). I don't see the need for them to have as much data linked to me as they'd like, just for the sake of it.

Some might say I'm para, others might say I'm cautious with potentially good reason.

Originally Posted by woodPixel

As I hear every day in the real estate pages "it's different here".

Don't worry. We could never possibly have a hard line fascist or communist state that would round up dissidents and undesirables for the ovens. Information would never be used against you by the state. Never.

Its different here.

How do you know?