This takes the cake

**Scott** · 13th August 2013, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by rwbuild

In the interests of transparency, could you expand your statements of the two persons you allude to with some facts please.

Sure. Firstly, Tony Abbott (the wall puncher):

On immigration:

‘Jesus knew that there was a place for everything and it’s not necessarily everyone’s place to come to Australia.’
‘These people aren’t so much seeking asylum, they’re seeking permanent residency. If they were happy with temporary protection visas, then they might be able to argue better that they were asylum seekers’

On rights at work:

‘If we’re honest, most of us would accept that a bad boss is a little bit like a bad father or a bad husband … you find that he tends to do more good than harm. He might be a bad boss but at least he’s employing someone while he is in fact a boss.’

On women:

‘The problem with the Australian practice of abortion is that an objectively grave matter has been reduced to a question of the mother’s convenience.’
‘I think it would be folly to expect that women will ever dominate or even approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons’
‘I think there does need to be give and take on both sides, and this idea that sex is kind of a woman’s right to absolutely withhold, just as the idea that sex is a man’s right to demand I think they are both they both need to be moderated, so to speak’ ‘What the housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing is that if they get it done commercially it’s going to go up in price and their own power bills when they switch the iron on are going to go up, every year…’

On Julia Gillard:

‘Gillard won’t lie down and die’

On climate change:

‘Climate change is absolute crap’
‘If you want to put a price on carbon why not just do it with a simple tax.’

On homosexuality:

‘I’d probably … I feel a bit threatened’
‘If you’d asked me for advice I would have said to have – adopt a sort of “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy about all of these things…’

On Indigenous Australia:

‘Now, I know that there are some Aboriginal people who aren’t happy with Australia Day. For them it remains Invasion Day. I think a better view is the view of Noel Pearson, who has said that Aboriginal people have much to celebrate in this country’s British Heritage’
‘Western civilisation came to this country in 1788 and I’m proud of that…’
‘There may not be a great job for them but whatever there is, they just have to do it, and if it’s picking up rubbish around the community, it just has to be done’

**Scott** · 13th August 2013, 08:07 PM

And Kevin Rudd? He deliberately undermined his own democratically elected government creating uncertainty and instability. Need I say more?

**Scott** · 13th August 2013, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Grumpy John

Clive Palmer maybe??????

I have no words.

**Bushmiller** · 13th August 2013, 08:17 PM

I'm used to media owners exhibiting a bias in their reporting: Fair dinkum, but I don't really ever recall such a blatant, overt, libelling of a political party by a media corporation before.

You just have to ask why would Rupert Murdock would be so hostile towards the Labour government? Ordinarily I would expect him to hedge his bets by contributing to both parties even if one was slightly more heavily weighted.

I can only conclude that RM thinks that a superfast NB would hamper his online interests. As a consequence he wishes the liberal effort to succeed as it it nowhere as good as the liberals would have us believe. As a computer idiot, I didn't have much of a clue until Ropey waded in. Now I know that the labour party's national broadband is almost certainly the way to go.

Ropey? That's the name he "enjoyed" during the 70s when I worked in the UK publishing industry. He was not thought of any better then than he is now and is the classic example of an abuse of power. See my slogan below.

Regards
Paul

**A Duke** · 13th August 2013, 10:06 PM

Vote ZANU PF

**Grumpy John** · 14th August 2013, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Scott

I have no words.

Good, my mum always said "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all".

**Grumpy John** · 14th August 2013, 10:36 AM

I have sent an email to Natasha Bita and left a message with Pino Migliorino, Chair of Fecca. Waiting to hear back.

**Scott** · 14th August 2013, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Grumpy John

I have sent an email to Natasha Bita and left a message with Pino Migliorino, Chair of Fecca. Waiting to hear back.

Look forward to this response, if at all

**Grumpy John** · 14th August 2013, 10:50 AM

I just had a call back from Pino, he seems to be a really good bloke and was happy and eager to talk to me about the article.

"Explain jargon and colloquialisms

Even if English is the first language of your new employee, they may be unfamiliar with Australian jargon, informal language and colloquialisms. This may be a challenge, particularly for those who are new to working in Australia.
Be aware of the extent to which jargon, particularly technical jargon, is used in your workplace. You can help to explain the essential expressions. Also keep in mind common Australian expressions may be misunderstood, for example, 'bring a plate', 'this machine is cactus' and 'he really spat the dummy that time'.
For some people, casual swearing may also be seen as aggressive or provocative and new employees may not be sure how to respond. You can help by being aware how this might affect your employees.
If it appears your new employee is baffled by the sense of humour and the jokes of your other employees, have someone help them out. A buddy or mentor can be of great assistance.
We recognise training doesn't stop once employment begins and some barriers can take time to overcome.
We have demonstrated ongoing commitment to improving the employability of our workers through activities, such as organised literacy programs.
Source: Southern Meats, Goulburn"

From: Connections – An employer's guide

Draw your own conclusions.

**Scott** · 14th August 2013, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Grumpy John

I just had a call back from Pino, he seems to be a really good bloke and was happy and eager to talk to me about the article.

That was quick, very impressive.

Originally Posted by Grumpy John

Draw your own conclusions.

In other words, all you have to do is be careful when using colloquialisms as they can create confusion to new workmates. I'm sure once the terminology is explained then the new workmate will join in the fun and use those expressions as well. I dare say the Herald Scum, unsurprisingly, stretched the truth somewhat. Shoddy, sensationalist journalism.

**Grumpy John** · 14th August 2013, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Scott

That was quick, very impressive.

In other words, all you have to do is be careful when using colloquialisms as they can create confusion to new workmates. I'm sure once the terminology is explained then the new workmate will join in the fun and use those expressions as well. I dare say the Herald Scum, unsurprisingly, stretched the truth somewhat. Shoddy, sensationalist journalism.

Exactly, nowhere in the guide does it say to "stop being an Aussie". Waiting to see how long it takes Natasha to get back to me.

**Grumpy John** · 14th August 2013, 11:34 AM

Just received an email from Natasha, I've sent back asking where in the guides does it mention "banning the slang".

**Grumpy John** · 14th August 2013, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by rwbuild

In the interests of transparency, could you expand your statements of the two persons you allude to with some facts please.

Asked and answered.

**Ticky** · 14th August 2013, 01:21 PM

Scott makes a very interestin point about the truth & origins of the artical in question & it's pretty clear that this is more about HEADLINES than facts.

Having said that, Our school kids don't make easter baskets anymore, & we don't celerbrate Christmas now, we celebrate the Holidays.

While the artical may not be 100% accurate, it is clear that we Australians are loosing our culture so as not to offend Migrants, & this is wrong.

Corby didn't get a fine & a slap on the wrist for having dope because she is an Australian, She got life because that is the penalty for that crime in Indoneesa. If they Shoot the Barli 9, it's not going to be with rubber bullets in the hope that they don't do it again because they come from Australia, they will be shot with real bullets & they will be real dead because thats the law in that country.

Go steal something from a middle eastern country & see if you can still count to 10 because your Australian... I guessing thats not a good idea.

In Australia, we get plenty of time to Pray, but the boss dosent have to pay for it, or build a room for it. We are not allowed to wear motor bike helmets, Balaclava's or any identity concealing head covering into Banks, Shops & Petrol stations. We have laws & customs that date back over 200 years, & for the most part, as previously stated, migrants in the past learned to live with them & in most cases, I would say embrace them.

Were do we stop giving away Australia to new comers... Should we stop our Daughters from gettin an education? If one of our Daughters tries to get an education, should we just walk up to her & shoot her in the head? Do we have our Brother stone our wife to death because she slept with someone else, so as Our Honor can be Restored?

Now I don't know about you but to me, this dosent sound very cosmopoliton. In fact, it sounds a little bit Neanderthal.

This is NOT how I want to live & I doubt it is how you want to live. It is not how the majority of the world wants to live and in my opinion, if this is what the current influx of imagrants are trying to escape, then don't only let them in, welcome them in ... & bring your best recipe, but here in Australia, live like an Australian & encourage education for everybody and dicourage violence from anyone. Please, Adopt our wonderful country & our laws & Customs. Feel free to build your church & worship there, but none of that whaling #### at 6:00am mate, we don't do that here.

Steve

**Bushmiller** · 14th August 2013, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Scott

And Kevin Rudd? He deliberately undermined his own democratically elected government creating uncertainty and instability. Need I say more?

Scott

Yes, he did indeed do that, but wasn't he also subject to some undermining in the first instance. I am not particularly condoning his actions nor Gillard's actions as there was some skullduggery going on that would have made the Borgia's look like Girl Guides.

Also remember that when Abbott talks about undermining, he conveniently forgets his assassination of Turnbull, who in my opinion has more statesmanship in his pinkie than the the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition combined.

Regards
Paul

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