Thread: uncharitable

I hope you do not dwell on it overnight. Sit down, write out a statement to use tomorrow, then try and put it out of your mind for the rest of the night.

You might find the charity is not able to do anything directly as collections are mostly done by 3rd party companies who then have sub-companies (an individual) within them who each run their own team. The head company gets around 80% which they filter down to the urks who do the collecting. The big money is once you build your own team.

For sure you need to see that this person is dealt with under the letter of the law. I used to sort my own problems and I can tell you I only just scrapped out of a few situations by the skin of my teeth. Hand it over but don't let the police sweep it under the carpet. They'd be right on your case had you redecorated his face.

Contact the charities. I can assure you that not one charity wants to be associated with the sort of behavior you are talking about. And in fact - you would be helping the charities in question an immense amount by reporting the fellow....

Think about this for a moment....

Do you think donations increase or decrease as a whole when a character like that becomes involved? Oh - they go down a LOT.. Across the board... And even donations through people who are upstanding and wonderful saints... One or two characters like this can shut down 100% of donations to a local charity.. The reason is that this fellow is now the Public Face of the organization.... That's who the community sees...

And so the reality is - they have to get rid of him and fast if they don't want their charity to dry up "inexplicably".....

Chris, I'm sorry my take on the situation is causing you angst, but the fact of the matter is I have seen this type of thing happen many times. In a past life I worked as a bouncer - Ive seen it all - the offended member of the public, the drug crazed moron, the innocent bystander, the uninterested cop, the over enthusiastic cop, etc, etc.
How dare I suggest you harden up? Because I can and I know it's the best thing to do in situations such as this. Yes, you can run off and squeal to the charity. Fat lot of good that is going to do. And even if they do give him the flick, he'll see that as a good reason to come gunning for you. Oh hang on a minute, nobody has mentioned that yet. Funny thing, that was the first thing that came into my mind. Yes, I can appreciate that living in a tent is less than ideal and rather than hardening a person it can make them far more sensitive than they may otherwise be. If you want to go through life teaching misfits a lesson, as many are suggesting here, I wish you the best of luck. As for those suggesting a smack in the mouth may be the best thing for it, may I suggest that would be the stupidest thing to do.
Hate me if you must, I care not. But try and be a little more rational. Oh, and by the way, you don't have to laugh in the blokes face, just laugh at him on the inside. Works wonders, believe me. If you didnt do that in my old line of work, you would have ended up in more blues than you knew what to do with. And you cannot win them all.
Someone giving you a gob full is much better than a knife between the ribs or a bullet in the head or being the victim of a hit and run. All viable options these days.
If you need a house and can tolerate Brisbane I may be able to help.

Originally Posted by Bohdan

But it doesn't teach him that such actions may have consequences and a knuckle sandwich may result in more respect for the next customer.

A knuckle sandwich comes with an interesting dessert - Assault charge.

Originally Posted by MAPLEMAN

Exactly right...MM

Not even close.

Whipping out the phone camera and starting to record is a great option in that kind of situation.

Originally Posted by Twisted Tenon

His behaviour doesn't fit. I wasn't there, but I am wondering about his mental health. I wonder if there is some sort of disorder that needs addressing?

TT

Absolutely spot on...spoke to the charity concerned yesterday and she confirmed my fears too...he has mental health issues and was being monitored apparently. Well contemplated TT...he is only licensed to operate at the local market,NOT along the footpath or outside any business in town.He will be released from his charitable duties pronto...MM

Originally Posted by rustynail

Chris, I'm sorry my take on the situation is causing you angst, but the fact of the matter is I have seen this type of thing happen many times. In a past life I worked as a bouncer - Ive seen it all - the offended member of the public, the drug crazed moron, the innocent bystander, the uninterested cop, the over enthusiastic cop, etc, etc.
How dare I suggest you harden up? Because I can and I know it's the best thing to do in situations such as this. Yes, you can run off and squeal to the charity. Fat lot of good that is going to do. And even if they do give him the flick, he'll see that as a good reason to come gunning for you. Oh hang on a minute, nobody has mentioned that yet. Funny thing, that was the first thing that came into my mind. Yes, I can appreciate that living in a tent is less than ideal and rather than hardening a person it can make them far more sensitive than they may otherwise be. If you want to go through life teaching misfits a lesson, as many are suggesting here, I wish you the best of luck. As for those suggesting a smack in the mouth may be the best thing for it, may I suggest that would be the stupidest thing to do.
Hate me if you must, I care not. But try and be a little more rational. Oh, and by the way, you don't have to laugh in the blokes face, just laugh at him on the inside. Works wonders, believe me. If you didnt do that in my old line of work, you would have ended up in more blues than you knew what to do with. And you cannot win them all.
Someone giving you a gob full is much better than a knife between the ribs or a bullet in the head or being the victim of a hit and run. All viable options these days.
If you need a house and can tolerate Brisbane I may be able to help.

Ken I am as tough as a nutshell and will not be dictated by fear or intimidation from anyone...and as I am a carer I take my role very seriously.If any one dares to emotionally or physically threaten my friend it will be at their peril!I chose to refrain from retaliating at this bloke with my fist as then I would have been the villain...can live without the consequences that would have delivered me.As tempting as it was!My actions were very rational I.M.O.And it seems I achieved my objective yesterday as he will no longer be afforded charity work...and I am not scared of him or any of his friends retaliating either...and as I mentioned he wasn't legally supposed to be canvasing money on the street in the first instance,so he shot himself in the foot!...stupid is what stupid does...MM

If you take your caring roll seriously, you would be well advised to pull your head in. Makes little difference how tough you think you are or how scared or intimidated you are not, the fact is he has had far more effect on you than is healthy - for all parties. Tough is walking away. Tough is laughing it off. Tough is letting it run off like water off a ducks back. By doing what you have done has only added fuel to the fire. It now remains to be seen what his reaction is going to be. Hopefully, he will be man enough to do the things I have previously suggested, but I doubt it.
You seem to have a real problem with anyone that flies in your face. Not healthy mate not healthy at all.
Any thoughts on the house?

Originally Posted by MAPLEMAN

...he has mental health issues and was being monitored apparently.MM

And he rides a bike, and presumably drives a car..?

I think that (if you chose) something to restrict his mobility could be done here...

Originally Posted by rustynail

If you take your caring roll seriously, you would be well advised to pull your head in. Makes little difference how tough you think you are or how scared or intimidated you are not, the fact is he has had far more effect on you than is healthy - for all parties. Tough is walking away. Tough is laughing it off. Tough is letting it run off like water off a ducks back. By doing what you have done has only added fuel to the fire. It now remains to be seen what his reaction is going to be. Hopefully, he will be man enough to do the things I have previously suggested, but I doubt it.
You seem to have a real problem with anyone that flies in your face. Not healthy mate not healthy at all.
Any thoughts on the house?

Pull my head in eh!...are you serious Ken?...I did walk away...yes this person did have an unhealthy impact on myself and my friend...sure I have a problem with people that fly in my face...and I also have the courage to stand up and fight for justice too...I WON'T ever accept being abused by a stranger in the street...that's my prerogative Ken!...MM

Originally Posted by cava

And he rides a bike, and presumably drives a car..?

I think that (if you chose) something to restrict his mobility could be done here...

Thanks for your thoughts George...the charity concerned have conceded that this bloke needs a spell away from dealing with the public...I agreed with them on this point...and they were most supportive of me bringing up the issue of his unnecessary diatribe...they certainly didn't tell me to pull my head in! Quite the contrary!They too were mortified by his behaviour.This chap needs to go away and deal with his mental health issues so that into the future he doesn't reoffend and cause further angst in the community...MM

Originally Posted by Toymaker Len

Whipping out the phone camera and starting to record is a great option in that kind of situation.

Will be investing in a phone with camera this week Len...the one i presently have is about to become obsolete by vodaphone...out will the old in with the new!...MM

Originally Posted by truckjohn

Contact the charities. I can assure you that not one charity wants to be associated with the sort of behavior you are talking about. And in fact - you would be helping the charities in question an immense amount by reporting the fellow....

Think about this for a moment....

Do you think donations increase or decrease as a whole when a character like that becomes involved? Oh - they go down a LOT.. Across the board... And even donations through people who are upstanding and wonderful saints... One or two characters like this can shut down 100% of donations to a local charity.. The reason is that this fellow is now the Public Face of the organization.... That's who the community sees...

And so the reality is - they have to get rid of him and fast if they don't want their charity to dry up "inexplicably".....

Thanks truckjohn for your input too...everything sentence you have penned makes GOOD sense...appreciate your opinion...MM