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    Default table saw fence clone

    Here is a pic of a clone of the biesemyer table saw fence that i have just completed. It cost me about $100 to build and works like a bought one. If there is any interest I can post a few more pics and details of construction

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    Consider me expressing much interest.

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    Yep me too any details would be great

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    hey Morrie, well done! have just finished same myself and you beat me to the post ( pun intended )
    Yours looks more like the genuine article than mine! I changed a few details to suit myself, the way i prefer to use the saw and to use existing stuff lying around the shed. Made from scratch the cam lock etc! Am very interested to see what you did for the locking mech and the adjusters for alinging the fence in both directions! Mine is going to be a bit different as i have never seen the real deal in the flesh!
    I don't want to hijach Morries post but if others want details i can get some pics for you also! Fantastic Job Morrie!!! Mick

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    Yes...I would like to see more pix's of the fence.

    I have General International 50-185 saw and it came with a Biesemeyer clone. General was contracted by the owner of the Biesemeyer fence to manufacture the fence for them...but then Delta bought the Biesemeyer company and General continued on making a clone of the fence. The Biesemeyer fence was never copyrighted.....thats why there are so many clone versions around.....it must tick Delta right off

    General - made in Canada
    General International is a division of General and it's equipment is manufactures in Taiwan

    General's site...http://www.general.ca

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    Default more pics and details

    Here are a few more pics and drawings of the biesemyer clone. The front guide rail is 50x50x6mm steel angle and the rear is 50x50x3mm steel angle. Both rails are 1500 mm long and notched out to allow the mitre slide access to the saw table. The rear rail is held to the table by 4 bolts 6x25 mm drilled through into the table and the front used ¼ inch csk head bolts and the guide rail being countersunk so that the heads did not foul the fence T rail. The guide tube is 65x35x2.5 mm duragal tube and attached to the front rail using 10-32 machine screws tapped into the tube every 200mm and it stands off the guide rail about 12mm.
    The fence tube was 65x65x2.5 and was capped at the end with 6mm plate to allow the cam lugs to be welded to it. The fence T rail is also 50x50x6mm angle and has 2 8 mm grub screws tapped into it to allow the fence to be squared to the mitre slot. 2 short lengths of hacksaw blades are pop riveted to the T rail so that the grub screws do not bite into the guide tube. The Cam is of 30mmbar and had been machined 1mm off centre for the cam action. A small toggle of 3mm plate sits between the cam and the guide tube to prevent the cam from lifting the fence up when locked. Hope this explains the construction and if you have any more questions I will do my best to answer them.

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    Default assembly sketch

    a small sketch of the assembly

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    Default another pic of the clone

    another pic - I used an adhesive rule from carbatec and made a small scale with a line scribed down the middle as a pointer its held to the T angle with 3mm machine screws in elongated holes so that it could be fine adjusted to Zero when different blades are used.
    PS: Outback - Where abouts in the central west are you? I Am trying to finish building a house on 30 acres out of orange at the moment and already looking building the mother of all workshops out there. The master plan is to move out of the big smoke and enjoy making shavings in my spare time.

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    Hey Morry,

    Would you consider making me one for a price? If so what would you charge me to make one?

    Cheers,
    Daz
    Cheers,
    Darren (aka Felix)

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    Thanks very much for the detail.

    I think were you say “and the rear is 50x50x3mm steel angle” you mean box section?

    What dimension stock did you use for the actual fence and is sufficiently strong?

    When you consider that a genuine Biesemyer set up is around $800 making one of these is a very attractive proposition.



    Thanks again

    Dave

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    Veyr impressive. It never ceases to amaze me how simple things really can be when someone smarter than you thinks of it.

    The fence is very simple, no degree in rocket science required to make it, but it looks, and I am sure is extreemly accurate.

    Congratulations on a top setup.

    As for where I am, about 2 hours from Orange.
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    Default table saw fence

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    The rear guide rail is an angle section 50x50x3 and only serves to hold the back edge of the melamine table extensions up. The box section 65x35 is attached to the front guide rail. The actual fence is 65mm square box section 3mm wall thickness and is probably overkill but solid as a rock. For a better idea have a look at the actual biesemeyer site and you can download a pdf of the installation instructions which shows the fence in its broken down state. As for building one for a price I would love to but time is a precious thing at the moment. Trying to finish building my house and twins born 2 weeks ago. Maybee in the future.

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    Default Any one wants Drawings??

    I have them in Turbo CAD

    If any one wants them then alll U have to do is ask


    Thanks

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    Harsh,

    I downloaded your zip file - thanks - but I don't have turbocad to access the drawings. Do you know if they can they be seen by some other commonly used program eg Excel? Or, would it be too much hassle to convert the format and post another zip file please (I don't know if this is even possible)?

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    Default RE : Turbo CAD

    You can download this 15 day trial version from there site www.turboCAD.com

    It is a big 85mb program

    Thanks

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