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20th September 2018, 07:59 PM #1
Tools for tool making addiction
Tools for tool making
Some of us here have been dipping our toes or fingers in to tool making of late.
Some may consider this playing with devil in the devils garden.
I know that once you go down that rabbit hole ,it a whole new world of mad hatters.
But ,I personally find it very satisfying past time,I’m just that much of a weirdo , that I have no intentions of giving up playing with the mad hatter in the devils garden, I’m addicted 110 % and have no desire to spend time in TMA(Tool makers anonymous) groups eating Tim tams.
In fact ,I want to take myself further down the rabbit hole.
In doing so ,I will require, no wait, need ,yep definitely need on this one more tools.
It’s funny that in order to make tools I’m looking at more ready made tools.
So ,after all that useless dribbling, I would like to know from the tool making brains group, what are your favourite tool making tools and why, pics would help too?
Or links?
I unfortunately and this will sound pathetic, I haven’t got any pics due to being away from my creative zone at present for the next 10 days or so [emoji849].
But ,I do have a pic of new saw that is slowly pulling it self out of the depths of my poor time management skill
Ok well just a very ruffed in handle,
But anyway to get the fire ball rolling down the valley of holes ,some of my cannot do with out them tools gear.
First up is my Hercus lathe from my father in law ,yep I know but how else does one take ruff bits off round metal and make them into small bits of round metal.(saw bolts nuts extra.
Next up ,would be my ever growing collection of files round,square bastard ,rat tales ,three square you just have to love the names.
Plus one on my favourite would be a body mans file.
Then there’s the smashing group, or the minuplaters,hammers.Another growing group.
One of my favourite pieces is piece of 90/35 pine yep just bog stock boring pine, about 400 mm in length that is perfect for placing in the vice and attaching saw backs to be filed and sanded and polished.
Two grinders find there home in my creative zone one is normal speed one is a slow speed likes it owner.
And oxy torch has recently been added and was very much liked during winter, but also comes in handy for making metal yeld to my ever increasing mayhem, but is also good at beating metal for bending and welding it[emoji849].
A small but on the hunt for more punches very useful things them.lots of different types.
A drill press,disk sander.osiclating bobbing sander the last definitely couldn’t do with out.
A few rasps including a couple of Japanese ones which are fantastic at turning wood into saw dust especially if your not careful.
My cheap bow sander which is a strip of cloth backed sand paper 300 mm long 25 mm wide measurements not really critical or important,
The paper is held between both hands and I use it to fair round edges on totes and saw handles extra.
And find it fantastic for upper body wearing out.
Then there is the vices I have,no Mr Bushmillar
not those private vices.
There’s a face vice a stand alone on its own stand bench vice with small anvil, and a machinist crappy vice from a country that does better rice take away dishes than makes tools (personal groan).
Another how did I do with out this,and was a suggestion from years back by the king of tool making Mr Ian W.
A head band magnifier when sharpening small saws it’s brilliant.
One other is my Snap On hacksaw one of the best hacksaws I’ve ever owned.
I’ve possibly missed heaps but am keen to know what others use or can’t do with out.
Mine sound very metal orientated by there is plenty of wood working tools in there too but there mostly just the stuff we all have.
Cheers Matt.
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20th September 2018, 08:13 PM #2.
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I haven't used them much but my fave tools for making tools are these plane makers floats.
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Recently I have been getting into metal bluing which I intend applying to some tools.
These are some handles I made for my tri-grinder station - this is slow cold fume bluing using nitric acid and Hydrochloric acid fumes.
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These were done with Hydrogen peroxide and Salt - the thing on the left is a counter sink extension,
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20th September 2018, 08:43 PM #3
Thanks Bob for fixing the thread tile[emoji849]
Metal bluing is one thing, one day I would like to take a look at a bit further.
Once I get over my must be very smooth and mirror shining stage.
I remember viewing your thread on your grinder stand a few years back very impressive.
Something I may need to view very soon as I now have three bench grinders [emoji41].
Cheers Matt,
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Mirror shine is something I aspired to as well until things start to rust then they just look shabby.
A mirror shine with a bit of oil / wax lasts about a year in my shed and then it needs a cleanup and teh oil/wax reapplied.
My oldest blued finish in the shed is more than 4 years old and showing no signs of any rust.
I remember viewing your thread on your grinder stand a few years back very impressive.
Something I may need to view very soon as I now have three bench grinders [emoji41].
There are some photos of it in this thread
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21st September 2018, 07:28 PM #5
[QUOTE=BobL;2107454]Mirror shine is something I aspired to as well until things start to rust then they just look shabby.
A mirror shine with a bit of oil / wax lasts about a year in my shed and then it needs a cleanup and teh oil/wax reapplied.
My oldest blued finish in the shed is more than 4 years old and showing no signs of any rust.
That’s an interesting point Bob.
Years ago I was bored one Sunday afternoon in the creative zone.
I grabbed a scrap piece of about 1/2 inch thick all thread (metal quality unknown probably Chinese).
From the scrap metal pile and turned it down into a small scratch awl on the Hercus lathe.
It was also polished to a near mirror in the normal way I guess.
Lots of sanding on the lathe going up to about 1200 wet dry.
I find using WD40 as the lubricant works well for me.
Then a polishing on a loose flap wheel with white polish compound.
Not sure why tho I suspected it’s has something to do with the white compound make up.
This has never rusted on me despite being through quite a few winters in the shed in Ballarat,
Cheers Matt,
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Τhe only thing I know about tool making is the Murphy's Law subsection for tool makers:
To make a tool, you need the tool you are trying to make.
Can you please confirm.
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Might also have been a piece of stainless in the first place?
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One of my quirks is to try at some stage to use the partly made tool to make itself.
An example of this was a WW bench. I knocked up the basic frame and added the front vice and then used the frame/vice to make the rest.
With small chisels I sometimes use the bade (sans handle) to create the hole in the handle for the blade.
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22nd September 2018, 11:22 AM #12
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22nd September 2018, 11:25 AM #13
Matt
I don't understand this addiction thingy of which you speak. I think it is fake news myself. So where are these TMA meetings, as although not an addict, I am extraordinarily attracted to Tim Tams and would you happen to know whether there is a limit on how many you are allowed to consume?
Could you not allude to my vices on a public forum please?
Regards
Paul
Ps. Pix to follow (Imagery warning: may include vices).Bushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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22nd September 2018, 10:30 PM #14
Sorry Paul,
Being a complete addict myself, I would never consider going to any TMA meeting,
Plus I would prefer Gin and tonic and cheese plater than Tim Tams,
But Paul talking of your many vices, and I’m sure I have equally the same, but with regarding your vices and vices I’m pretty sure you have a little yellow articulated Stanley model that is great for shaping handles extra on, would you have a shot of yours please,
As I’m a way from my creative zone for a bit.
Cheers Matt,
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24th September 2018, 11:43 AM #15
Matt
I'm not sure about the Stanley vice. . I had two small vices neither of which I could find until today, which is why I have been slow to post. I mean to say, how can you lose a vice! However, they are small:
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I have not actually used this vice yet but the other one I have used quite a lot until I put it away in a safe place!
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It looks quite a good size until you put it into perspective, but very cute.
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On specific tools, these are some very simple devices I use to push the saw screws out of their handles:
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Just a simple nail glued into a handle. The head is rounded over forming a dome shape so it does not contact the threaded area of the screw, which would be the case if a standard punch was used. The head of the nail automatically centers the shaft in the hole, if the right size is selected. Although I made up three sizes, I seem to only use the smallest.
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PaulBushmiller;
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