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Thread: Domino coming to the US
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14th December 2006, 11:53 PM #1
Domino coming to the US
Well, Herr Doktor Festool has finally gotten around to admitting that yes, he might actually try to sell the Domino in the US market. Announced now to be available 1st April . Base price (introductory) is said to be around US$700. With all accessories and Dominoes, should come in just under US$1000.
What's funny is that all the "he said, she said" debate that took place here earlier has commenced on US forums. It will be interesting to see if the ones crying loudest now about "costs too much and nothing but a biscuit joiner anyway" end up changing their tune later on (can you say Lignum?).
(I've already placed my order. )Cheers,
Bob
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15th December 2006, 12:03 AM #2
USD$1000 = AUD$1277.
If thats what the complete kit costs you, then think yourself lucky. Here, AUD$1200 will only get you the Domino by itself. USD$1290 for the complete kit here.I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
Albert Einstein
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15th December 2006, 12:16 AM #3
Yeah, I figured that out and was a bit surprised. I think you ought to write your Member in protest.
Cheers,
Bob
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15th December 2006, 12:22 AM #4.
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Howdy Bob You are finally going to get your very own brand new pleasure machine. But the realease date of 1st of April concerns me. I will be interested to see if their are design changes re: "adjustable pin" distance setting
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15th December 2006, 12:26 AM #5I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
Albert Einstein
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15th December 2006, 12:44 AM #6.
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Howdy to you Martix I have posted this a few times before and in my opinion a "Major" design flaw with the Domino.
Using the Dominos inbuild pin on the edge of a door stile (or chair leg/rail etc) cuts the center of the mortice at 37.5mm (regardless of the size of the bit being used) which = the center of a whopping 75mm rail. All the doors/frames, chair leg/rails i make (and 97.2% of other furniture makers) are between 40 - 65mm in width, which makes the pin usless. I have to "mark out" all the Stile/leg settings
The pin needs to be moved in around 15- 17mm (around the same spot as the little rubber discs)
The centering jig goes down to around 30mm, so why dosnt the pin distance = the minimun centering distance? (which is around 17mm closer)
It has to have been a major oversight from the festool R&D team because its Soooooooooo frustrating because it just "dosnt work"
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15th December 2006, 12:58 AM #7
Yeah thats the first thing I discovered with it when I used it on some drawers.
The pin setting was to far from the edge, so I thought no worries Ill just use the adjustable cross stops. Quickly discovered that it wasn't really possible unless you take off one side of the stop, then change it back yadda yadda pain in the A.
I guess the only instant solution at the moment is like you said, get the pencil out, dial in a little slack and on your way .
I agree with you about it being a design flaw. Apart from that, is incredibly well designed and constructed, a bizarre little machine indeed.
I used it on like a 30degree day and it seemed to get very hot. Have you noticed that? It was only in MDF.I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.
Albert Einstein
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15th December 2006, 01:23 AM #8.
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Ive taken to cutting legs/stiles 15mm longer and Dominoing them them trimming off the excess.... its the quickest way
Im so glad you have joined the Dommi fraterity. Its amazing how your construction practices and design ideas will now change just to suit her. And the heat is the same with mine. I think its the pendulum action. It dont bother me. I have a 8"Fein random orbital and wow, after 5 min on a hot day its "realy" cooking
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15th December 2006, 07:46 AM #9
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15th December 2006, 08:09 AM #11
Excellent news Bob but I fear that George Wya beat you to the announcement at yesterdays White House briefing:
"My fellow Woodworkians today I heard that it will soon be possible for you to buy the Fistool Dominator This technical wonder was designed in the USA by Americans for Americans but we wanted it developed and testicled in the third world such as Yurop and Osterlasia. They have done just that without hurting themselves on the sharp bits and have paid for all the R and D costs so that Rumsfeld Enterprises, the importers, can sell them here for less than they pay! God Bless er where are we today Condie?"
Hope you have as much fun with it as we have over the last few months
Regards
Pat and the Guardian of the Valley
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15th December 2006, 09:06 AM #12Banned
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Congrats Bob,
Register it for a residents visa immediately and start teaching it American history in preparation for a green card!! Like Lignum, with a release date of 04/01, I'm suspicious.
My understanding for the delay is that there was considerable lobbying by US tool manufacturers regarding the impact on their market share. Go prove 'em right buddy.
Regards
The Mad Man
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15th December 2006, 09:39 AM #13
I hope to. The wait is killing me. I have so many projects just simmering, anticipating the arrival of my very own Domi. I'm not surprised that Dubyah took credit for it, after all he needs for something to go right.
Rob,
You should know that the stoush has started already over whether or not Domi is a real tool or an evil plot. The biscuit joiner folks are staking out their territory, and the traditionalists are poo-poohing it as a gadget. And, of course, no one will pay that kind of money for a mere biscuit joiner. But thanks to you, Lignum, Patr, Rocker, Martrix, and others, I know what she'll do. The most affected manufacturers here, Porter-Cable and DeWalt, will have a conniption fit.Cheers,
Bob
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15th December 2006, 12:31 PM #14Tool Junkie
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The best part of this is that I can finally acknowledge publicly that I've owned one for the past six months.
I was part of the Editor's Tour over in Germany this past week, which is where the official announcement was made. The coolest part of the trip was that we were watching the production line build one of the U.S. Domino machines. I had glanced over at the production paperwork, and saw that the joiner they were building was already tagged with my name. I found it quite thrilling to watch them build my own personal Domino. So now I have one for the garage and one for the basement. Eat your heart out Bob.
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15th December 2006, 03:05 PM #15
Powertoolman,
Does the American version have scales graduated in millimetres, or have they been converted to inches, and are the cutters the same as ours, i.e. 5, 6, 8, and 10 mm? Or have they produced them in fractions of an inch? Knowing the obstinate refusal of most American woodworkers to learn anything about the metric system, I imagine that metric scales might deter a lot of buyers over there.
Rocker
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