Thread: Another question about domino..

Time poor>lots of furniture to make>Rocker's jig awsome>make one!>use for making kid's bed>GREAT!>wife wants bed with 200+M&T's> >humm&hah>thinkthinkthink>same bed costs $5K to buy> >buy Dom> M&T's Eeeeeeasy/strong/fast/accurate>luuuurrrrvre that Dom.

What 1600? Who cares?

Den

Its time to put the $1600 fallacy to bed.

The cost of a Domino is NOT $1600

It is $1243 Inc GST. And a good dealer will throw in a few sweeteners. So theoreticly it will be inbetween $1100 and $1243

How many people include the cost of router bits, after market fences, dovetail jigs etc when telling us how much there new router cost? No one.

Originally Posted by Jasey

What I'm asking is it worth buying a domino before getting a thicknesser, jointer, bandsaw, proper ts?

With what you said you already have, i would get a cheap Tiawanese 8" jointer first (8" is a must) and then second with out any shadow of a doubt the Festool Jig-saw, then a budget 12" thicknesser. If you dont mind hand plaining then get the Jig-saw first

Originally Posted by Lignum

Its time to put the $1600 fallacy to bed.

The cost of a Domino is NOT $1600

It is $1243 Inc GST. And a good dealer will throw in a few sweeteners. So theoreticly it will be inbetween $1100 and $1243

No one who's ever raced a sailing boat, or owned a horse would blink at spending that in an afternoon!

P

Originally Posted by silentC

Maybe if I ever go into business making furniture - but I would never do that either because having to do it in a timeframe would take all the fun out of it.

Nah, it just adds to the fun. Nothing like the thrill of telling your customer that the item you promised to deliver a week ago won't be ready for another fortnight....

Maybe I DO need a domino...

Originally Posted by Lignum

With what you said you already have, i would get a cheap Tiawanese 8" jointer first (8" is a must) and then second with out any shadow of a doubt the Festool Jig-saw, then a budget 12" thicknesser. If you dont mind hand plaining then get the Jig-saw first

Can I ask why the jigsaw? I must admit that the Festool range like the CMS and its components seem tempting too, I think they suit my space and weird need for high quality.

Originally Posted by Jasey

Can I ask why the jigsaw? I must admit that the Festool range like the CMS and its components seem tempting too, I think they suit my space and weird need for high quality.

Largely because you already have a circular saw for straight lines and with a shooting board or good straight edge you ought to be able to get good cuts. A jigsaw will let you lash out into curved pieces for much less cost than a good bandsaw. But a cheap jigsaw is just a toy (DAMHIKT ), too much blade wander for precision work or even close.

[Caution: purchasing your first Festool, whatever it may be, will not be your last one. ]

Originally Posted by Jasey

Can I ask why the jigsaw? I must admit that the Festool range like the CMS and its components seem tempting too, I think they suit my space and weird need for high quality.

Imagine ripping some timber on a table saw then cleaning it up with a hand plane. Well thats the "exact" same result you will get using the Festool jigsaw and guide rail. Its mind blowing just how good this is.

And when it comes to curves you get the same shiny glass smooth square cuts. I have never seen a bandsaw even expensive ones that cut like this.

Take a small peice of timber to you local Festool dealer and have a go. Oh and take money to buy it because you will want it on the spot.

That Jigsaw is a modern miracle right up there with the best tools Festool have ever made

Forgot to add. When used with a good extraction, there are 2 small sloted holes on the sole. They act as a vacuum to hold the base nice and secure helping to eliminate the dreaded chatter. Sooooooooooo sooth

Originally Posted by Lignum

That Jigsaw is a modern miracle right up there with the best tools Festool have ever made

I love miracles. If I could only turn water into Festool.

[Probably deletable as drivel, sorry. ]

Lignum,

Is the jig saw really that good? I am very disappointed with the Bosch I have and, as you say there is blade wander. I thought that was just to be expected with jig saws.
And on a curve, how deep would you say you could cut without getting some wander with the blade?
And which jig saw are we talking about? There are two different types(grips) - not that I've been looking at them!

Carry Pine

Originally Posted by Carry Pine

Lignum,

Is the jig saw really that good? I am very disappointed with the Bosch I have and, as you say there is blade wander. I thought that was just to be expected with jig saws.
And on a curve, how deep would you say you could cut without getting some wander with the blade?
And which jig saw are we talking about? There are two different types(grips) - not that I've been looking at them!

Carry Pine

I really don't like Jig saws but I did a few test cuts in hardwood with a Trion and I have to say that I was mightily impressed. I think the magic is in the design of the blades. They don't seem to have a kerf and only seem to cut on the upstroke though I could be wrong. Lig might be able to expand on that.
Cheers

Originally Posted by Carry Pine

Lignum,

Is the jig saw really that good?

Yes, yes and yes. This is a true stunner. I didnt think Jigsaws were supposed to be like this. Shame your not close by as you could have come in for a look. Read the Online review http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/rev...oolPS300EQ.htm (scroll down and check out the cut on the curved peice. The reviewer said it was as good as the 10" table saw blade such as the Freud LU85)

The only critisism he had was the fine blade that gives the glass smooth cut (realy glass smooth) wanders a bit because its thinner in the thickest wood, where the thicker blade cuts straight in the thick stuff but needs a little bit of a clean up. And the max depth of cut is 85MM So there is a slight trade off. But the "rougher" cut would be better than the finnest cut on anyother jigsaw

One of the great things is you can plunge cut in the middle of a board. I had a go for fun and was amazed at how it actually worked.

Im talking the Trion PS300eq Barrel grip. The handled one is basicly the same.

This is one cool tool

Originally Posted by Shedhand

I really don't like Jig saws but I did a few test cuts in hardwood with a Trion and I have to say that I was mightily impressed. I think the magic is in the design of the blades.

Mike i tried a new fine bosh blade and it was just as good. One thing i like is either side of the blade is 2 (they look like copper? or might be brass) plates that you adjust with an allen key so they are near the blade like a bandsaw. That keeps the blade spot on straight through the cut. If i was just starting out in woodwork with limited $$$$ and was allowed only one Festool product i wouldnt hesitate to get this. And not liking jigsaws is exactly the same here. It i have never used one that is even half decent untill now. Now i am a Jigy convert. Wow

Forgot to add - Blade changing? 3 seconds

I think my young bloke will be getting a present of a slightly used Bosch jig saw. He'll need to wait a little longer to get the present the fairy is going to leave me on the doorstep.
Gee I love it when you can justify buying good tools!

CP