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    Quote Originally Posted by gregoryq View Post

    Here's another tip: If you have a large dust extractor also you can use it to suck a CT-22 or -33 bag empty. I have had my CT-22 for four years and I'm still on the first bag. Its tough being a tool snob and a cheapskate at the same time
    Now that is a great idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinmcf View Post
    good choice oddy, glad to hear you like the new toy.

    do you use the paper disposable bags for your ct-33 or did you buy the long life bag?
    I use the disposable bags- don't like the mess of trying to empty fabric bags.
    I extend the life of the bags by placing a triton dust bucket in front of the ct-33 when I don't need full pressure suction or when I am just cleaning up shavings and whatnot around the workshop.
    I like that idea of sucking the sawdust back out with the large dust extractor though!

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    i reckon its a great idea too, now why didnt i think of that!

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    I don't want to hijack this thread, but I would like to ask some questions about these sanders relative to the pneumatic orbital sanders?

    I would be doing a mixture of low to medium quality woodwork / renovation style work, and a bit of fibreglass / gelcoat repair work as well. ( hobie cats ).

    My sanding capabilites at the moment are a bosch ROS with the iron shaped base, and a terrible Black and Decker belt sander. Festool wise I have a OF 1400 and TS55 and a jigsaw of some sort, so maybe if I invest in a festool dust extractor the sander will make sense, but if I keep using my household vacuum cleaner with the saw and the router, and buy a pneumatic sander I will save a lot of money.

    Any thoughts?

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    I have never used an air powered sander but I understand that they are real air hogs, which necessitates a beefy compressor. They are inefficient too, using much more electricity to compress the air to feed the sander. On another woodworking site that I frequent a pro says that to run the equivalent of a Festool, sander with air takes three h.p. constant, which is 2.2 kW/hour. How long it would take you to make the air sander more expensive is something you'll have to decide for yourself.

    Another thing is paper life...the Festool's dust extraction scheme makes the paper last longer. I suspect that after 500 discs the Festool sander would be paid for in paper savings alone*

    *assuming: twice the life, same cost @ $1.00/disc.

    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregoryq View Post
    I have never used an air powered sander but I understand that they are real air hogs,
    Imagine the air needed with the Festool air powered ROS with the 11mm stroke

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    So, and now I am really hijacking this thread, how would the Festool ets 150/5 handle resurfacing my hobie cat hulls? If I had to have just one Festool sander, but I wanted to be able to do a bit of work on fibreglass? Also would a CT Midi handle the fibre glass? Lignum - I'm looking at you

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulspirit View Post
    If I had to have just one Festool sander, but I wanted to be able to do a bit of work on fibreglass?

    Easiest question to answer in woodworking by a mile

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    So I just dropped home for lunch and to grab some sanding pads for my Bosch PSM 160:

    [ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-PSM-160-A-Multi-Sander/dp/B0000Y6WOE"]Bosch PSM 160 A Multi-Sander: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools[/ame]


    I have been sanding the varnish of a timber kitchen benchtop, and although this thing collects a surprising amount of the dust it makes, it hardly makes any in the first place. I bought it because I needed a sander of that profile ( I call them iron shaped sanders, as in steam iron) for a job I did last summer.

    I am between this and a belt sander or between a rock and a hard place. Basically I'm sander broke.

    I can't justify the price of a rotex 150 ( although I have been drooling ). What are the downsides of the 125?

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