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17th June 2018, 10:47 AM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Fitting veneer motifs
Hello, many years ago, I purchased a couple of 52mm diameter motifs made of veneer for use on future box lids or sides. Looking at them today, I find that one side is coated in a satin finish film, presumably a one sided very sticky film to hold the individual pieces together. But the film cannot be easily removed by hand ( ie finger nail), and I don't want to damage the motif.
Can anyone please advise the recommended way of fitting this motif?
P1750256 (Medium).JPGregards,
Dengy
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17th June 2018, 11:19 AM #2GOLD MEMBER
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Can't help with the removal, but on a side track, where did you get them from? I am after some.
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17th June 2018, 11:25 AM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Bought them overseas about 10 years ago, but I note that VeneerInlay now sell them here
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17th June 2018, 04:48 PM #4GOLD MEMBER
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Perhaps this "film" that cannot be picked off is possibly a thick coat of dried glue?? any thoughts?
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17th June 2018, 05:29 PM #5Woodworking mechanic
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Timbecon also supply them
https://www.timbecon.com.au/site-sea...x?search=Inlay
As do goodsandchattles.
Some searches suggest it could be paper glued on to hold the motif together. They say to lightly wet and run off.Last edited by Lappa; 17th June 2018 at 05:55 PM. Reason: Additional information
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19th June 2018, 11:43 AM #6GOLD MEMBER
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Isn’t it just hot melt glue?
Ie, you put the motif in place, then run over it with a hot iron.
Remember these sort of things are usually not used for marquetry but for inlay.Apologies for unnoticed autocomplete errors.
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19th June 2018, 05:13 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks Arron. Can you please tell me what is the difference between inlay and marquetry? I thought they were differnt names for the same thing
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19th June 2018, 06:09 PM #8GOLD MEMBER
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Marquetry : make up a sheet of edge jointed veneers, using different timber veneers to carry the pattern. glue up a flat substrate, then stick the whole thing down. It’s a sheet approach.
Inlay : router flat, shallow depressions in the substrate. Using glue, stick thin decorative strips or pieces of wood, shell, ivory etc into the depressions.
IOW, assume you have figure and ground oriented pattern. In marquetry the ground is a veneer (historically called the ‘window’). With inlay, the ground is the substrate.
Obviously, if it really is glue on the back, then it would clash with the glue you’re going to use to stick the marquetry sheet down. If it’s inlay, and assuming it’s a good glue, it’s quite a neat way of doing it.
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ArronApologies for unnoticed autocomplete errors.
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20th June 2018, 07:17 PM #9GOLD MEMBER
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Source of definitions please
That’s interesting. In antique terminology I have understood the term marquetry to be “making a picture in veneers” usually organic/ curved shapes, a scene. Parquetry is where the veneers are angular shapes and patterns.
Inlays are certainly usually where they are let into a solid substrate. String inlays are a single line inset.
I would really appreciate a source for your definitions to help me get all this clear in my own head.
David.
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20th June 2018, 08:00 PM #10
Doesn't that make inlays a form of intarsia? (The inlay of blocks into a substrate?)
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21st June 2018, 08:19 AM #11Woodworking mechanic
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When I was at the Victoria and Albert Museum, they had a wonderful collection of furniture.
Heres a link
https://www.vam.ac.uk/search?q=Intarsia&astyped=
If if you search for Marquetry, Parquetry, Inlay, Intarsia - it shows an example of each type.
Fascinating museum!
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