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22nd August 2012, 07:44 PM #16SENIOR MEMBER
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HI,
WOW that Centricator is 100 Times more Nicer than My Shars Co- Axial Indicator, Now I have Tool Envy.All The Best steran50 Stewart
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23rd August 2012, 10:56 AM #17.
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Close Gregory. I'll keep looking.
Espacenet - Original document
BT
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23rd August 2012, 12:03 PM #18
Now that you have a name at Deckel to write to, I'd just try again with the simple question of how to remove the protective cover surrounding the mount.
If you don't give up easily, I'm sure they will start to be helpful just to stop you pestering.....
Joe
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23rd August 2012, 12:22 PM #19
Bob, I was able to determine that the Centricator trade mark was issued to an F. Eckert & Co. In Upper Bavaria in 1956, but a patent search under petitioners of that name yoelds zilch. It must have been filed by invemtor's name or perhaps protected only by Brevet. I seem to recall that the German patent office changed sometime around 1949 or 1950 so it should be there if a patent was filed.
I also searched "zentricator" without expecting to find it.
GregIt's all part of the service here at The House of Pain™
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23rd August 2012, 06:42 PM #20
Hi BT,
Thanks for the PM - thats a particularly nice example you've found there;
I didn't realise the sliding bottom section could be left on for storage in the box, I had been disasembling mine as I didn't think it could fit - Your case appears to be a fractionally different layout to mine. My arbour is a No#1 MT from memory + the 16mm dia straight adaptor.
I'll try to find a publication date in the booklet, my copy is actually printed in French (though I'm no linguist and could be wrong on this, but yeah pretty sure it's French).
Any chance of some closeup's of the dial Indicator?, the original that would have belonged to my Centricator has been replaced at some point long ago with a little Mitutoyo.
And thanks very much Joe for the translation, I'll print a copy and keep it with the book - I'm certain it will come in handy at some point.
And for your reference Greg & Bob, I didn't end up getting that FP4m that I was looking at and talked to you two about a while back. It was a lot of money and it came on offer at a really inconvenient time when we had a massive log jam of work. But anyway, I'll keep looking
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23rd August 2012, 07:37 PM #21.
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I will dust off the camera tomorrow for you Glen.
Does the domed cover at the base of the arbor on your Centricator unscrew?
Shame about the big Deckel.
BT
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23rd August 2012, 07:45 PM #22SENIOR MEMBER
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23rd August 2012, 07:54 PM #23.
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It is a temptation Phil given that Stu has no need for it on his rest run.
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23rd August 2012, 09:14 PM #24
If It does unscrew, not easily.
Perhaps it has "flight-rusted" in place?
Has the cover on yours come loose? I dont want to unduelly force it as I imagine that it would mark/dent easily, It does look logical that It should come-off somehow.
There is a "10/63" marking on the rear cover of the booklet.
Would that indicate October, 1963?
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23rd August 2012, 10:55 PM #25.
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There's no corrosion Glen, it's in near flawless condition. The protective cover is tight, too tight to move with fingers.
The booklet I have has Druckschrift-Nr. 1105d - 7.62 printed on the rear cover. Suggests maybe a change in the booklet's contents by the time your's was printed?
I followed Joe's advice and sent Susanne Balling at Michael Deckel GmbH another email. She replied less than half an hour later saying that a fellow who knew about these old instruments was returning from holidays next week and she would forward him my questions. Susanne said she would reply next week. German efficiency.
BT
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24th August 2012, 12:52 PM #26.
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Close Ups for Glen
Well, rather than wait for the Melbourne I dusted off the Nikon.
The dial is 40 mm in diameter.
BT
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24th August 2012, 09:54 PM #27
Thanks for the pictures BT, much appreciated.
I didn't mean that there was corrosion on mine, that "flight rust" comment was more for Gregs benefit, i.e give him a stir and check that he was still awake.
Largely mine is in very good condition, the black plasticised textured skin has flaked off in some small areas around corners/edges etc. I would like to know how that stuff is applied.
Your manual seemd to contain all the same diagrams as mine (as would be expected), by 1963 the front cover has the centicator text on a black background, as for the descriptions I can't say how closely the text matches (French).
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24th August 2012, 10:41 PM #28.
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Glen,
Looking at the paint, it looks like the standard wrinkle finish black paint applied to a whole host of machines, cameras, instruments etc from that era. In my mind I still reckon it's a great finish.
BT
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27th August 2012, 04:44 PM #29.
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Stumped
Dear Bob,
my collegue just checked, it's not possible to remove the mounting shank from the Centricator (we have one old Centricator here where he tried). The mounting shank and a kind of ball bearing are in one piece, so it cannot be demounted.
We recommend to purchase a new Centricator, if you are interested I will send you a quotation.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen / with best regards
Susanne Balling
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27th August 2012, 07:28 PM #30
It will fit my mill and little lathe..... Now thats an easy fix!
1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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