23rd Feb 2012, 11:26 PM #31
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24th Feb 2012, 09:09 AM #32
I think the centre height is 5 inches...Precision takes time.
24th Feb 2012, 10:07 AM #33
That's called "relieved". You should charge extra for that. Saves the next owner doing it.
24th Feb 2012, 05:12 PM #34
Any way I saw it go off in the truck. It should be home about now. I’ll let Ray tell you the rest.
24th Feb 2012, 05:16 PM #35
What sort of truck was it.
24th Feb 2012, 05:34 PM #36
A white one.
24th Feb 2012, 06:10 PM #37
Well it's home and safely in the workshop, thanks to the efforts of Phil, Stuart and Josh.
It was a smooth and uneventful move, pretty much every thing went according to plan, which is what you always hope for when moving heavy delicate machinery, This time it was great to see how Phil does things... Thanks Phil and Stuart, your help was greatly appreciated.
The machine itself is in pretty fair condition, although all the oil caps and wicks are dried out, and a couple of oil caps are painted over. The bearings that the table runs on feel lumpy and gritty, echuca somethings? I haven't had a close look yet. maybe later tonight when it cools down a bit..
The interesting thing though is...
This Cincinnati Number 2 has no balls....
Well it has ball bearings and a chain.
The table runs against the ball bearings, the one on the right is fixed and the one on the left is spring loaded... beyond that, I'm still figuring it out.
The motor for the wheel head is inside the main casting.. not on top, no collets, and no idea what the tapers are yet. did come with left and right center however...
One wheel spindle mounting is missing... that might be a problem to source...
The work head tapers are huge....
More pictures later.... thanks again to Phil and Stuart for all the help this morning..
PS... It was a white hire 3tonne tray cost $120 for the day plus fuel and citylink. Say $250 all up.
24th Feb 2012, 06:21 PM #38
The workhead taper will be either MT5 or B&S 12 (I think it is 12, but it is rarer then an honest politician) Oh and 50ISO at the other end..Precision takes time.
24th Feb 2012, 06:25 PM #39
24th Feb 2012, 06:36 PM #40
Any thoughts on what the wheel spindle taper might be?
I found these guys linked to from a PM post... as a potential source for grinding wheel arbors... William Sopko and Sons Co. - Precision Wheel Grinding Adapters and Spindle Accessories Manufacturer
24th Feb 2012, 06:37 PM #41
What RC says re tapers.
At least my Elliot No 5 has balls; a whole cluster of them.
My Cinci No2 T & C manual circa 1950 states precision steel balls separated by a flat bronze cage. Ball tracks made of hardened steel ground in position.
Motor in base.
24th Feb 2012, 06:44 PM #42
I worked out on the way home that it was those bearings holding the table on. The rack is wider than the way(?) those bearings run on. At least thats my current theory.
Havent read all the posts yet I'm measuring up the steel for my surface plate.(currently thinking about 60mm dia pipe with 3.6mm wall 1100mm long for the vertical and 50mmSQ 3mm for the horizontals)
Pictures to follow
24th Feb 2012, 06:56 PM #43
more photos of the bottom of the table and the chain please ray
glad to hear its home safe
24th Feb 2012, 08:56 PM #44
24th Feb 2012, 11:10 PM #45
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