Thread: convince me

I know I am biased, but I think you would be better off with the Steelmaster 9x20 variable speed model.

Lots of goodies that the H&F doesn't have.

Just my 2c

https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...ht=steelmaster

the Vari speed and digital readout are very tempting so that's one for the 7x12" lol

Originally Posted by new_guy90

the Vari speed and digital readout are very tempting so that's one for the 7x12" lol

don't forget the camlock tailstock and the extra bits you get with the Steelmaster 9x20.

Big Shed, you got any photos of this "wonder" lathe of yours that you keep babbling on about?

regards radish

Originally Posted by radish

Big Shed, you got any photos of this "wonder" lathe of yours that you keep babbling on about?

regards radish

he does and he put a link to it in another thread .......the "i hate to start another lathe thread" lol

i know the steel master is a good machine but does anyone have any constructive criticism for the H&F AL-50G or the 7x12" lathes?

Originally Posted by radish

Big Shed, you got any photos of this "wonder" lathe of yours that you keep babbling on about?

regards radish

I do indeed

https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...ighlight=lathe

There is a wonderful option on the menu bar above that enables you to search for these things

Originally Posted by new_guy90

i really want to get a lathe

Well the the moths out of the wallet and head off to Melbourne and pick up one of these up....

http://www.moderntools.com.au/h380.html








Only a cool $50 000 or so...

It is what I will be getting after I buy a tropical island..My current plan is

1. ??
2. Profit
3. Buy tropical island

Originally Posted by Big Shed

I do indeed

https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...ighlight=lathe

There is a wonderful option on the menu bar above that enables you to search for these things

yeah i read that thread before and i saw your bullet pens they look great. i know a place that sells the steel master up here in Bris and ill call about prices on Tuesday but apart from the EVS there isn't much difference and doesn't really bother me at this time if i do get the AL-50G a treadmill motor can fix it .

just a question on all the 9x20" lathes are they under powerd or is it mostly ok?

Edit: just looked on the net and you guys in Melbourne have that steel master on sale to! here is a link. up here in Bris Shaw Machinery have it but they dont have the prices on there website so i hope its on sale. they also have a large range of the hobby size machines so im itching to give them a call oh bugger it ill email them

oh and something i didn't realize is the EVS is not an infinite variable speed but a selection of 6. are the little 7x12" lathes the same?

Originally Posted by .RC.

Well the the moths out of the wallet and head off to Melbourne and pick up one of these up....

http://www.moderntools.com.au/h380.html








Only a cool $50 000 or so...

It is what I will be getting after I buy a tropical island..My current plan is

1. ??
2. Profit
3. Buy tropical island

lol looks good but no digital readout and i live in BRISBANE!!!!!!!!! he he Melbourne

my dream lathe is a Colchester triumph 2000 such a nice machine, second would be a Monarch 10 EE (it looks like a vespa ) and then a Hardinge tool room lathe oh a boy can dream

Originally Posted by new_guy90

just a question on all the 9x20" lathes are they under powerd or is it mostly ok?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe they don't have backgear, something of a short coming. At the price I reckon you can live with that.

Originally Posted by blackfrancis

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe they don't have backgear, something of a short coming. At the price I reckon you can live with that.

no problem for me im sure if it is needed a brake could be made very easily. i have been reading past posts on these machines and its sounding better and better right now ill get on youtube so i can see one under power

Back gear gives much more torque at low speed. If you want to take the same cut on a diameter that is twice as large you will need twice as much torque. Not having back gear will limit the lathes capability to rip into large diameters, use form tools, that sort of thing. Even modern industrial CNC's often have what amounts to a back gear.

Basically if you want to work on stuff that is very much on the large side of what the machine can accommodate back gear becomes important.

Apart from any thing you have read or seen in regards to pros and cons,just looking at the specs the lathe in question doesnt seem to have a great rnge in the feed selection area,0.1 to 0.2 could be a little course for what you intend to machine.

Originally Posted by blackfrancis

Back gear gives much more torque at low speed. If you want to take the same cut on a diameter that is twice as large you will need twice as much torque. Not having back gear will limit the lathes capability to rip into large diameters, use form tools, that sort of thing. Even modern industrial CNC's often have what amounts to a back gear.

Basically if you want to work on stuff that is very much on the large side of what the machine can accommodate back gear becomes important.

sorry was a little confused with what you said before but now i get you yeah shouldn't be a problem for ally and brass just push up the speed but again if more torque is needed something could be arranged.

well thats lots for the 9x20" does anyone have a 7x12"?