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27th February 2013, 10:55 PM #16GOLD MEMBER
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I wonder if someone like this would ship you a couple "as cast" or roughed?
Cast Iron Hollow Box Parallel - Iron Hollow Box Parallel and Cast Iron Swivel Angle Plates Supplier & Manufacturer from Indore, India
$1275! I guess thats to to bad "by the kg"
And I hadnt thought the wieght issues.
Wouldnt they weight to much for you to cast? or did you mean making the pattern and getting it done else where?
Stuart
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27th February 2013, 11:02 PM #17SENIOR MEMBER
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the 10" version of these would be ideal. just need to find some crappy imports for a reasonable price
Taft-Peirce BOX PARALLELS by Suburban Tool, Inc.
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27th February 2013, 11:39 PM #18SENIOR MEMBER
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yes and no. with enough iron, air and wood nothing is too big.. :P but our existing setup I could make a say a 100mm hollow cube. maybe 150mm, I would have to do the math. I will say the last piece of cast iron we (Ray and I) did was small (~150x100x30) and exciting, but the casting had quite a few defects, none that hurt the piece, but still... Now that I think about it we have bumped up the size of the R2D2 furnace since last time.
I might also consider getting it cast from my own pattern, If I knew a place that did cast iron, and the price was ok.
It would be much cooler to go from scrap to precision tool.
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27th February 2013, 11:45 PM #19GOLD MEMBER
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27th February 2013, 11:52 PM #20Dave J Guest
What about getting a little Douglas shaper and taking the table off it and use that. They can be had for around $300 and you could sell the rest as parts and easily make your money back or more. You would also have the benefit of having T slots for mounting it or gear to it.
It would probably be cheaper than buying something that size and the tables are not that heavy.
Dave
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28th February 2013, 12:17 AM #21SENIOR MEMBER
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28th February 2013, 12:26 AM #22Dave J Guest
I think the guys name is Mal who Pipeclay knows that takes apart Hercus lathes and sells them as parts. You need the boxes and they are cheap, I know some times it's hard to do but if it's for a good course why not.
Dave
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28th February 2013, 01:23 AM #23
What does the foundry (Furphy?) in Shepparton charge per kg if you provide the pattern? There is an iron foundry in Castlemaine with a good reputation as well.
I'm with Stu - get it cast the way you want it.Cheers,
Joe
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28th February 2013, 01:36 AM #24SENIOR MEMBER
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Furphy don't cast anything any more they import it all, now days they are just a brand.
Castlemaine sounds promising anyone got stuff done by them?
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28th February 2013, 03:42 AM #25SENIOR MEMBER
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Just to get the idea of the weight. this design is 200x200x200mm and is 29kg and the raw casting ~35kg
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28th February 2013, 06:56 AM #26SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi Josh,
we use Grigsbys foundry in Ballarat. I have found them pretty good.
Phil
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28th February 2013, 07:54 AM #27SENIOR MEMBER
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28th February 2013, 10:37 AM #28SENIOR MEMBER
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Would Joe be thinking of the Old Thompson Kelly and Lewis site. Its now a division of the American company Flowserve.
I dont think they cast anything any more. Marko and I spent some time there over a year ago, moving a handfull of machines they wanted to keep into one bay. The third bay back from the main road. Every thing else seemed to be sold off. I didn't see any casting going on there. All the pump bodies seemed to be imported. The plan was to sell the front two building off. Very tricky because I think they are heritage listed.
Seemed to be only a few staff left, 30 - 40. I'm told they used to employ over 400.
Phil.
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28th February 2013, 10:46 AM #29Pink 10EE owner
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Why not send giesser a PM, He might be able to do it https://www.woodworkforums.com/members/91734-giesser/
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28th February 2013, 10:47 AM #30
There is also the wagga foundry Wagga Iron Foundry - Welcome
For some reason the figure of $26 per kg is in my head, not sure where it came from though. That's 5 times the price of flocast.1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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