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  1. 14th July 2012, 12:49 AM #1
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    Default My "New" old machine vice

    Hi,
    When i got my shaper i also picked up a machine vise. It is only 6" wide, but is considerably more solid than the blue paperweight that came with my mill. After the mills clean etc, i thought i should be top it off by cleaning up the vice and using it instead of the blue one. A quick disassemble revealed several suprises. One is the simplicity of construction, the other is the screw nut. The ways are just flat with 2 through grooves. A mating set of runners on the bottom of the moving jaw go into the grooves and a small plate is bolted on the underside at the jaw end to stop lift.
    I don't know if the nut is original, but it is aluminum I hit it with a file and it seems pretty soft, so i just wanted some opinion with what to do. I could use it as is, knowing that it may start to bind up at some stage, or machine a new steel and bronze nut. it is only a 4mm pitch screw so my little lathe should handle it better than the 1/4" ACME i have tried (and failed at) previously.





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  3. 14th July 2012, 10:23 AM #2
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    Ewan,

    When I acquired my 3 inch Hercus vice, it was missing the nut and the screw. The fellow I purchased the vice from furnished me with some photos and measurements of the absent parts. He had bought a pristine vice hence his sale of the incomplete vice.

    I made a replacement nut from phosphor bronze and the screw from 4140. I didn't realise that Hercus used a square thread, I made mine Acme.

    Are you going to plug those nasty drill holes? I can post you over some cast iron.

    BT
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    Hi Ueee, As the aluminium nut has plenty of threads in it for engagement and the spigot into the base seems a reasonable diameter it might be plenty strong enough. Perhaps at this stage just give it a go, if no good you can always come back to it.

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    Not directly related, but when I took apart my radial arm saw because the elevation nut ( big ass barrel nut) I was stripped I was surprised to find it was aluminum. I have no doubt that it was original so I suspect it was
    Some cost saving measure. The replacement was made of brass
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    Hi,
    Thanks BT and Log, I think i'll clean it up and put it back together as is, but add yet another job to my list......
    Some CI would be great Bob. Also, where on earth did you get phosphor bronze from. The only bronze i can get my hands on is LG2 gunmetal, good for bearings but a bit soft for nuts.

    12Tpi, When i was a teen the first machine i bought was a 10" delta saw table. A few years later, to my horror i had managed to strip the rise and fall nut. On inspection both the rise and fall and tilt nuts are just nylon/acytal on small (12mm or 16mm) square thread screws. My Dad still has that saw.....i think he has replaced them both a few times.
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