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    here tis Ray if you want to see it

    still on their website...click on the Tab..message from Irwin

    National Tradesmen Day - IRWIN TOOLS AUS



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    Irwin tools seem to be operated by a bunch of tools.

    Nev.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SurfinNev View Post
    Irwin tools seem to be operated by a bunch of tools.

    Nev.
    Blunt tools!

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    Default OHS, hmm, Yes and No.

    To a large degree I do believe in WHS. For sure it can be over the top. For those of us who have OHS "training" overload, it is not that difficult to pick the issues. To those in small business the cost of compliance and training is relatively large. Consequently a lot of small stuff goes un-noticed. Sometimes common sense goes out the window. One panel beater I know of had a 4" angle grinder with the guard removed and an 8" cutting disc fitted. I have seen a young bloke use his leg as a saw horse to cut through a fence paling with a blunt power saw.

    I'm doubtful Irwin found all these blokes using their tools on worksites. They may have gone to worksites and handed out their tools so their camera crew could shoot "tradies" in action. Some of those "tradies" may have been doing the best they knew how. Some probably once knew better and had become lax in their ways. If they did not take OHS staff on site to shoot the videos then they may not have known what the bad practice was etc.

    Who here practices perfect safety, never ever takes short cuts, knows it all and would be prepared to face a full on audit?? Very few I'd wager. Along the same lines older people are more safety conscious I reckon. Simply because we have seen so many ways for things to go badly wrong.

    Also I think there is a feedback loop where someone does something stupid and lies about it. The experts then step in and redesign the process and all relevant documents to prevent the recurrence of something that didn't happen in the first place, increasing the burden on everyone in the process.

    The other thing is people take short cuts, they are often lazy and just want to do the job quickly. The documents and practises that exist are there because lots of people took lots of short cuts and found lots of ways that things did not work out quite as they planned! OHS people have large files of such incidences and build procedures etc based on those failures.

    Sometimes I love OHS. Sometimes I feel strangled by it.

    I'll get off my soap box now.

    Cheers

    The Beryl Bloke

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    Theres no doubt about it, some people and to be sure tradies are among them, are their own worst enemies as far as their own personal safety goes.
    It seems to get back to a cross between mental laziness and desire to get the job done quickly.

    Overlay this with the overkill of some unnecessary OHS regulation and the result may be that some workers may unconsciously go in the other direction, who knows?

    Its more a matter of placing that attitude of self preservation in the workers mind than threatening punitive action against them.

    However I view the company to use the promotion to allegedly thank the tradesmen of Australia RAH,RAH etc is valid only presented in the right way.

    To my limited way of thinking I see a difficulty in placing some of that group, you allegedly want to honor, in in a less than favorable light by displaying obvious and unsafe poor work practice. Given that the very reason for the promotion is to honour the tradesmen (seemingly-not the tradeswomen) of Australia, its a self defeating exercise.

    It does no honor at all to the individual's concerned and certainly does not make their brand tool seem any "better" when it is used in an unsafe or incorrect way. On reviewing the video ,it seems that some items have been edited from when I first saw it as the panel beater migging in short sleeves has gone missing, but the bloke with the long handled screw driver chisel is still there.

    The video when viewed by non tradies who may not know better, could at its worst be taken as an exemplar for a work practice which may ultimately result in an injury or damage to the tools ,machines or the work.

    Grahame

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    I tried really hard not to respond .RC. but I just had to . I am sure people know my thoughts on this subject as I am a big fan of common sense and of course at some point self preservation is going to kick in. I get to practise this everyday at work
    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    I think it was pretty light and she was moving it out of peoples way as they moved along
    It isn't about the weight of the load it's about her carrying technique and the strain, even with a light load, on her spine.


    I think he was drilling air... Yea I will give you that one...
    I reckon that hole isn't going to be straight either.


    Not a safety issue, very common thing when the air con does not work, plus aides visibility.. You cannot fall out as you have a seatbelt which must be worn...
    If the aircon doesn't work, then fix it. Hopefully the maintenance on the catch holding the door open is a bit better. Otherwise....


    Looked to be holding a note pad...probably checking something, not actually working..
    Does that mean that if you are holding a note pad, you wont get something heavy dropped on your foot by a well trained apprentice, or dare I say, tradesman.



    careful inspection showed it was one of those with the shaft that goes right through the head, designed for hitting..
    If the shaft goes through the handle then the blade must be unshatterable (I think that's a word). Thankfully the shattering shards will miss his knee...or will they?



    he is a real man.... He would not have just the generic man card, his man card would be pink...
    Totally agree with the pink card. I was a 'real' man in the 1970's. Now I'm a 'real' deaf man
    You can go overboard on the safety and rules get ignored at other times.... For example when you see politicians running around plants and construction sites... Do you see them wearing steel capped boots? They put on the hard hat and safety glasses, do not see them wearing steel caps though, and often without hi-vis clothing as well..
    Isn't it funny that now it is easier to see the guy 'not wearing the Hi-Vis
    At a local plant the OHS officer was writing up the office staff because they were not wearing their safety glasses when walking from the office to the toilet... About the worst that could have happened is a bird could crap in their eye...
    To say it has gone overboard is an understatement
    As I say, there is safety and their is safety.... Everyone is so scared these days because the cost of frivolous litigation is so high so everything is way overboard...
    You have just hit the nail on the head Richard. It's about mitigation of litigation under the heading of safety

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