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Thread: National Trades mans day
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29th August 2013, 03:55 PM #31GOLD MEMBER
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here tis Ray if you want to see it
still on their website...click on the Tab..message from Irwin
National Tradesmen Day - IRWIN TOOLS AUS
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29th August 2013, 06:05 PM #32Senior Member
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Irwin tools seem to be operated by a bunch of tools.
Nev.
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29th August 2013, 07:00 PM #33Senior Member
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30th August 2013, 12:35 AM #34
OHS, hmm, Yes and No.
To a large degree I do believe in WHS. For sure it can be over the top. For those of us who have OHS "training" overload, it is not that difficult to pick the issues. To those in small business the cost of compliance and training is relatively large. Consequently a lot of small stuff goes un-noticed. Sometimes common sense goes out the window. One panel beater I know of had a 4" angle grinder with the guard removed and an 8" cutting disc fitted. I have seen a young bloke use his leg as a saw horse to cut through a fence paling with a blunt power saw.
I'm doubtful Irwin found all these blokes using their tools on worksites. They may have gone to worksites and handed out their tools so their camera crew could shoot "tradies" in action. Some of those "tradies" may have been doing the best they knew how. Some probably once knew better and had become lax in their ways. If they did not take OHS staff on site to shoot the videos then they may not have known what the bad practice was etc.
Who here practices perfect safety, never ever takes short cuts, knows it all and would be prepared to face a full on audit?? Very few I'd wager. Along the same lines older people are more safety conscious I reckon. Simply because we have seen so many ways for things to go badly wrong.
Also I think there is a feedback loop where someone does something stupid and lies about it. The experts then step in and redesign the process and all relevant documents to prevent the recurrence of something that didn't happen in the first place, increasing the burden on everyone in the process.
The other thing is people take short cuts, they are often lazy and just want to do the job quickly. The documents and practises that exist are there because lots of people took lots of short cuts and found lots of ways that things did not work out quite as they planned! OHS people have large files of such incidences and build procedures etc based on those failures.
Sometimes I love OHS. Sometimes I feel strangled by it.
I'll get off my soap box now.
Cheers
The Beryl Bloke
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30th August 2013, 07:12 AM #35
Theres no doubt about it, some people and to be sure tradies are among them, are their own worst enemies as far as their own personal safety goes.
It seems to get back to a cross between mental laziness and desire to get the job done quickly.
Overlay this with the overkill of some unnecessary OHS regulation and the result may be that some workers may unconsciously go in the other direction, who knows?
Its more a matter of placing that attitude of self preservation in the workers mind than threatening punitive action against them.
However I view the company to use the promotion to allegedly thank the tradesmen of Australia RAH,RAH etc is valid only presented in the right way.
To my limited way of thinking I see a difficulty in placing some of that group, you allegedly want to honor, in in a less than favorable light by displaying obvious and unsafe poor work practice. Given that the very reason for the promotion is to honour the tradesmen (seemingly-not the tradeswomen) of Australia, its a self defeating exercise.
It does no honor at all to the individual's concerned and certainly does not make their brand tool seem any "better" when it is used in an unsafe or incorrect way. On reviewing the video ,it seems that some items have been edited from when I first saw it as the panel beater migging in short sleeves has gone missing, but the bloke with the long handled screw driver chisel is still there.
The video when viewed by non tradies who may not know better, could at its worst be taken as an exemplar for a work practice which may ultimately result in an injury or damage to the tools ,machines or the work.
Grahame
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30th August 2013, 08:24 AM #36SENIOR MEMBER
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