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18th January 2014, 06:32 PM #1
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Out with the new and in with the old
Hi Guys
This little feller followed me home yesterday.....
It is a British made (the first pom in the workshop
) Startrite H225. I'm guessing its about the size of Simons Heska. It will cut 16"x10", takes an 11'x1" blade.
Needs a bit of TLC but runs as it is, one of the bearings in the gearbox has a cracked race and the coolant taps are both seized and one has had the handle broken off it.
2 of these turned up on Ebay on Thursday, and disappeared by Friday morning. I had already contacted the seller to ask if i could come and have a look, i rang him again and asked what had happened. Apparently ebay had pulled all of his listings for some reason. Anyway, some haggling and i had myself a new saw for less than the BS5S cost me.....
So out with the less than 1 year old Hafco! It is on ebay if anyone is interested.....Metal Bandsaw NOT Lathe OR MILL 240V Hafco BS 5s in Calwell, ACT | eBay
Cheers,
The pig in mud1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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18th January 2014, 11:44 PM #2
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nice one Ueee
you will wonder how you ever used the old one
i thought my little 6x4 was great till i got a decent one
cheers
Harty
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19th January 2014, 06:45 AM #3
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Nice saw I'm jelly
BETTER TO HAVE TOOLS YOU DON'T NEED THAN TO NEED TOOLS YOU DON'T HAVE
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19th January 2014, 06:47 AM #4
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Nice saw but where will it go
BETTER TO HAVE TOOLS YOU DON'T NEED THAN TO NEED TOOLS YOU DON'T HAVE
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19th January 2014, 09:16 AM #5
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Hi Ueee,
WOW! that is a nice saw. Looks a lot younger than mine with some more "modern" features. You got yourself a real bargain. Good work. I'm now going to convert your imperial to metric to compare to mine! Yours looks a tad bigger if anything.
NICE
SimonGirl, I don't wanna know about your mild-mannered alter ego or anything like that." I mean, you tell me you're, uh, super-mega-ultra-lightning babe? That's all right with me. I'm good. I'm good.
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19th January 2014, 09:21 AM #6
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About the same. Mine is claimed to cut 400x260 but for some reason 390 seems as far as the jaws will allow. If it was new I'd take it back!
I have actually cut more than 260 high by packing out the jaws to the furthest point from the pivot.
Cheers,
SimonGirl, I don't wanna know about your mild-mannered alter ego or anything like that." I mean, you tell me you're, uh, super-mega-ultra-lightning babe? That's all right with me. I'm good. I'm good.
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19th January 2014, 09:41 AM #7
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Hi Andre,
I've started a bit of a re-arrange of things, i'll make it fit one way or the other!
Simon i think the saw is only about 15 or 20 years old, but i can't be to sure. The are still sold under the Clausing Kalamazoo brand.
Here is a pic of the blade guide, the offset bearings twist the blade to vertical and the carbide pads are the actual guides. You can see where the back of the blade has cut into the ally block.
Ew1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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19th January 2014, 10:42 AM #8
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That's an odd looking set up. I'm wondering whether the washer behind the bearing to the right is meant to be larger and the back of the blade skates on that. (Might have to space out the bearing on the left a bit though)
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19th January 2014, 01:39 PM #9
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Hi Ueee,
In the first photo, the bearing guide on the RHS looks similar to the one on mine that has a thrust bearing. I'm wondering whether yours is perhaps missing a thrust bearing or similar?
Edit: I just re-read Michaels post. Similar to what he said…...
SimonGirl, I don't wanna know about your mild-mannered alter ego or anything like that." I mean, you tell me you're, uh, super-mega-ultra-lightning babe? That's all right with me. I'm good. I'm good.
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19th January 2014, 02:16 PM #10
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Hi Eeee,
My guess(apart from whats been said already).
I wonder if the "washer" on the right used to be larger in diameter and has just worn out?
https://www.woodworkforums.com/attach...769-large-.jpg
Looks like the cap screw for the carbide block adjustment saved the ally block.
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19th January 2014, 04:23 PM #11
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It looks like the cap screw did save the block, it is notched.
I found a spare parts breakdown and there is supposed to be another carbide that the back of the blade runs on. The bearing spacer Simon is referring too looks like it is supposed to hold the pad in place. It looks like it is 14mm dia, maybe 3 or 4mm thick. Despite being made in England the saw is all metric it would seem. Of course they are both missing....
I can get them out of the UK for 14 pound each, but i wonder if i can get something from Carb-i-tool, i'm pretty sure thats where Phil F gets the scraper blades from.
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19th January 2014, 05:27 PM #12
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At this point I'd like to register a protest.
Using a properly detailed parts list from a company still in existance (who speak English) to work out what is missing is cheating!
The rest of us have to endulge in wild guesses, rumor and chasing up online information before making our own spare parts.
Michael
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20th January 2014, 08:06 AM #13
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little????
Originally Posted by Ueee
you need glasses
good buy Ueee
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21st January 2014, 11:23 PM #14
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Well...little compared to the last few machines i have dragged home anyway! Originally Posted by eskimo
I had a brain wave this arvo about the carbide pads, i have some 12mm square inserts that are flat (from the 4" facing cutter you sold me Michael) I'm sure i can grind the corners off and make them fit.
I now know why the bearing race was cracked too, the 30306 bearing used had a 32mm ID, the shaft is 32.25. Someone has just pressed it on without checking and cracked the inner race. What was someone saying just the other day in the whisperings thread about letting some people near machines......
The drive pulley has also suffered a few knocks and the largest of the 5 has a few chips on it. Since a new one is as much as i paid for the saw i think i'll just never use the slowest speed. I guess i could turn it off, bolt a new one on and turn a new pulley.....
Ew1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
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22nd January 2014, 07:22 PM #15
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When I rebuilt mine, I included a VFD and a Digital tacho for a wide range of speeds. Pfffft! It only ever gets used at one speed now anyway, flat stick at 90M/min! Didn't really need the variable speed from the VFD or tacho in the end. Seems to cut the same whether its 30, 60 or 90 anyway! Not having any experience with bandsaw cutting, I was (unnecessarily) hung up on blade speeds it appears. I have cut a fair amount of stuff on the bimetal blade and it still shows little if any signs of wear.
P.S. I did no easy on speeds and feeds when it was new though.
SimonGirl, I don't wanna know about your mild-mannered alter ego or anything like that." I mean, you tell me you're, uh, super-mega-ultra-lightning babe? That's all right with me. I'm good. I'm good.
