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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    Have had my first go with this high fill primer..

    Results are a bit disappointing.. All the areas where the old base paint was chipped never got filled... Maybe I did not spray on a thick enough coat??

    Are these chipped areas too deep for high fill primer?
    You're supposed to fill the chips first, then sand back, then high build primer, then sand back, repeat until you're over the entire process, then top coat.

    Which is why I don't bother..... got better things to do with my time than put a pristine paint job on a machine tool in the full knowledge that sooner rather than later, I am going to chip it.

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    Sounds like there is no quick and easy way then...

    I assume the paint on the machine is lead based...
    Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    Sounds like there is no quick and easy way then...

    I assume the paint on the machine is lead based...
    Really hard to say but at 70 years old, a good bet.

    The good news is, given your age and current mental condition, a little lead dust is not likely to have any noticeable effect on your intellect )

    Just to point out my own total hypocrisy, I've used a lot of filler and paint on the timber in the V berth area of the boat, 90% of which will never see the light of day once I build in the berth flats, lockers etc.

    Irrationality in action..... I am starting to miss my angle grinders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraehe View Post
    Hi,

    The red paint is Glyptal, originally developed for the insulation of electrical coils. It is considered oil proof. The idea is that it seals the surface and promotes oil run off (in a gearbox or engine, back to a sump).

    Glyptal is still available from PPC here in Aus. Now, if anyone can tell me what is the white paint used within machine gearboxes, etc, I would be most grateful (ie, the white equivalent of the red Glyptal).

    K.
    Couldn't find a white equivalent but POR15 is good stuff for the same application. I have used it inside the headstock of the lathe. Unfortunately it only seems to come in black, grey, silver or clear. Thought it may be of help or interest anyway....

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    Hi RC,

    This is probably the one and only time that machine will be in this stripped down condition to get a decent coat of paint. Well, it might be another 20-30 years before it's gets another chance, if ever..

    Such a special bit of machinery makes it worth doing well, and you only have to do it once... I'd even consider taking it to an auto panel beater and get them to do filling and the spray job.

    I'm from the school that says you should do everything yourself, and I like being independant, but sometimes a job is worth calling in some outside assistance.

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    I read this thread looking for painting tips for my small cast iron project. But the color debate got me thinking and there is a different point of view that wasn't considered. There has been much research and it has been proven that color affects mood. Certain colors will even make you hungry. Hospital are painted colors that are supposed to make you relaxed an calm, maybe to calm and that is why people die there

    So I was thinking if you paint your machine a bright exciting color like a racing red you will get too excited when you machine on it and be more reckless and gung ho. If it is a somber color you will be relaxed and pay more attention.

    Also you are not always aware of what is affecting you, or even aware you are being affected. I'm not drunk officer I can drive perfectly..into a tree.

    Now I am sure a lot of posts will follow saying what a load of bulls#!t, but it was just another point of view and not necessarily one I would subscribe to in this instance.
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    Yes I have recently been debating myself over my colour choice..... I did some more research and worked out why blue/green is the most common colour....

    Those two colours are the most relaxing not only to the body but to the eye... Yellow creates eye strain, because of the amount of work the eye takes to take the colour information in....

    Red is not much better apparently...

    Pale purple is another colour easy on the eyes..

    I am still no closer to choosing, but I have to make up my mind soon...

    Ideally you want a colour, easy on the eyes, soothing and does not show up the grime as much that will always get on the machine no matter how good a job cleaning you do...
    Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post

    Ideally you want a colour, easy on the eyes, soothing and does not show up the grime as much that will always get on the machine no matter how good a job cleaning you do...

    That be old fashioned machinery grey!
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    QUOTE=DSEL74;1664833]

    So I was thinking if you paint your machine a bright exciting color like a racing red you will get too excited when you machine on it and be more reckless and gung ho. If it is a somber color you will be relaxed and pay more attention.

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    That explains why so many Seig owners have the odd finger missing.

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    Hi RC,
    Just looking at your picture, if you now go over that with a thin smear of bog (car body filler) using a plastic scraper it will stick to the filler fine for this job.
    If you want to take some short cuts, have a jar of thinners and dip you plastic scraper in this and finish the bog as it's curing, this way it will only need a light sanding after woods.
    If you have internal corners, dip your finger in the thinners smooth it out with your finger.
    The thinners acts as a lubricant to stop the bog sticking to your plastic scraper or your finger.

    This is the technique I used in the pictures below and it saves so much time.

    Dave
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    I think I have sorted out those chip marks..
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    Now your talking

    we will make a painter out of you yet

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    Where do you guys buy your paint? Is it easiest to go to the big box store, do they carry suitable paint?

    Is the Killrust primer compatible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    I think I have sorted out those chip marks..
    Now for the sand blaster loaded with 40 grit garnet - give the new paint a good 'tooth' to cling to.

    PDW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave J View Post
    Hi RC,
    Just looking at your picture, if you now go over that with a thin smear of bog (car body filler) using a plastic scraper it will stick to the filler fine for this job.
    If you want to take some short cuts, have a jar of thinners and dip you plastic scraper in this and finish the bog as it's curing, this way it will only need a light sanding after woods.
    If you have internal corners, dip your finger in the thinners smooth it out with your finger.
    The thinners acts as a lubricant to stop the bog sticking to your plastic scraper or your finger.

    This is the technique I used in the pictures below and it saves so much time.

    Dave
    Hi Dave

    Nice have you got any before shots

    cheers
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