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    Default Qualos 00 gear hobber

    here my latest toy, a Qualos 00 gear hobber. Sorry about the dodgy photo, i pick it up Wednesday and its still in the trailer. I'll post better picks later when i can get it out the trailer.
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    According to the card that was velcroed on it was made in the 1930's and was used for making gears in water meters. At some point it wound up in a scrap yard where the former owner of Chains and Accessories bought it and restored it as a demo machine/office ornament. Its only got 5 change gears with it so i will have to make some more. I'm hoping i can use the gears i have to make some of the ones i don't have and eventually make a full set. So far I've found out it will cut a maximum 3.5" diameter gear and It uses 5/16" bore hobs which i think might be hard to get. If any one has a copy of a manual or any sales literature i would be keen to get a copy of it. I'll post more pics and info as i get things sorted.

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    I looked at that machine but decided that it was a bit small for what I did (although would probably do most) and was way too expensive (noted the crossed out tag). Well done. let me know if there are gears I can help with.

    Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael G View Post
    I looked at that machine but decided that it was a bit small for what I did (although would probably do most) and was way too expensive (noted the crossed out tag). Well done. let me know if there are gears I can help with.

    Michael
    Its a bit small for me too but i've got a couple of things i can use it for. The prices on the machines were high to deter people just bying them because they are cheap and competing with Hercus. In the current economic enviroment i can understand why they did that. When i talked the the bloke selling it and told him i wanted a hob just so i could learn how to use one he dropped the prices a fair bit for me. I was seriously thinking of buying the hercus Hobber but it was in pieces and didn't have any change gears so i bought the little Qualos hobber. He also tried really hard to sell me the big slash grinder but i just don't have the room.

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    Finally got it out the trailer and into the shed.
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    I've measured up the change gears and they appear to be 24DP, I've just got to figure out the pressure angle now so i can try and source a hob. The change gears i have are 90,72,30 and 2 20tooth. with those gears and the ones i cut as i go i can cut another 7. I i use a compound gear train i think i can cut a few more also.
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    Above are the photos of the collet that goes in the spindle, as can be seen in the photo its busted. It looks like a C type collet but it is too big for a C1 and too small for a C2. I think it might be some thing qualos made up. I'll keep searching for some collets to match but i think I'll have to make some and an arbor of some sort.

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    You can make your own hobs -
    https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...78#post1661078
    Alright, it's being used to do a worm wheel there but the same applies.

    Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael G View Post
    You can make your own hobs -
    https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...78#post1661078
    Alright, it's being used to do a worm wheel there but the same applies.

    Michael
    If all else fails I'll make my own hobs but I would rather buy them. Did you relieve the teeth on the hob? and if so how did you do it?
    One of these would make it easy.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcOfChvoj40

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    I believe that when gashing the teeth on home made hobs the face of the tooth is at circumference height which gives relief to the tooth.

    Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapatap View Post
    If all else fails I'll make my own hobs but I would rather buy them. Did you relieve the teeth on the hob?
    It was only a small hob cutting into plastic, so no relief was used. When the real one comes back from holidays I was going to harden it and then do a little precision angle grinder work. However, now I have a surface grinder and so could set the hob up parallel to the mag table and do it that way - a little more repeatable.
    This is an end view of the practice cutter I made up. OD= 36mm. I wanted to get a couple of teeth in the cut at once so it has 12 teeth per rev which is about as many as I could comfortably fit. By moving my relieving cutter across a little I also got some positive rake on the teeth. The end faces are not all that wide (bit under 4mm), so relief would not be a difficult thing to do with a pass or two of a grinder.

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    Michael
    Last edited by Michael G; 12th June 2014 at 10:35 PM. Reason: added pic

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