Thread: Show us your Shaper

Stu,

No clutch unfortunately on the Macson. The Alba has one and is very handy on small jobs.

Macson also only has a fixed table whereas the Alba is swivel.

At least the Macson has the handwheel for moving the ram. With the Alba it is a matter of turning motor off and use the v pulley.


Next problem is the table lift screw is jambed tight. Large section is jambed fully down with inner small section fully extended with a lump of swarf wedged in the thread.
There is a fine thread on the bottom of the large outer section. I am guessing that there is supposed to be a limiting nut fitted. Another character building job to do.

"Someone" and not me has put some pressure on trying to move the table. Actually sheared off the taper ping driving the bevel gear. Better that than a gear tooth of 2.

Ken

Hi Ken,

Good to see it being brought back to life.

Have you looked at some of the Ellliot Shapers?, the only reason I ask is that McPhersons were selling Elliot for a while, and maybe your Macson is related to one of the Elliot models?

Regards
Ray

Mr G,
You are a genius.

Found an 18" stroke Elliott on on the web. The top end is a dead ringer for the Macson. And we bag the chinese for copywrite infringement.

I noticed that the web unit had oiler holes for ram lube. I will be removing the greasers from this one as lubrication has been suspect with a couple of patches of galling on the bottom of the ram midway between the greasers.

Ken

Originally Posted by Anorak Bob

Joe,
Rod's handle looks like a modification of the original. If you are again interested, I have a bronze / brass cast copy of the later handle ( a la Dave's ) that can accompany the badge. I am happy enough with just my bent and welded handle.....
BT

Bob,
as you already know, the badge and handle have arrived. Badge not yet done (over the next 4 days). But the crank handle received a makeover already. Hope you approve. I like it and it's the right colour for my Douglassie.
Joe

Originally Posted by jhovel

Bob,
as you already know, the badge and handle have arrived. Badge not yet done (over the next 4 days). But the crank handle received a makeover already. Hope you approve. I like it and it's the right colour for my Douglassie.
Joe

Could anybody with a Douglas that has a badge take some photos for me of the badge?

I need some dimensions if possible. Neither of my two Douglases have the badge but I do have a small cnc mill that I could make some out of brass on.

I can then get them plated.

I am on to a lead for an original handle it seems they are cast in Aluminium so this looks like the right time to give Gingery's charcoal foundry a whirl.

Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by jhovel

Bob,
as you already know, the badge and handle have arrived. Badge not yet done (over the next 4 days). But the crank handle received a makeover already. Hope you approve. I like it and it's the right colour for my Douglassie.
Joe

It is a dainty colour Joe but I will overlook that. Glad you hacked off the existing handle and replaced it with a taper. You have done a fine job and I'm happy that I sent it to you.

BT

Originally Posted by lamestllama

Could anybody with a Douglas that has a badge take some photos for me of the badge?

I need some dimensions if possible. Neither of my two Douglases have the badge but I do have a small cnc mill that I could make some out of brass on.

I can then get them plated.

I am on to a lead for an original handle it seems they are cast in Aluminium so this looks like the right time to give Gingery's charcoal foundry a whirl.

Thanks in advance.

LL I can tomorrow.

Rod M's near pristine Douglas is without the badge and doesn't look undressed. The badge is LOUD, the sort of thing that wouldn't look out of place on a car boot. It's also made of sinker material.

BT

Thanks again Bob!
The colour has actually grown on me. It's quite a pleasant pastel green under all the dirt and oil. The old handle actually wansn't joined properly and I could just push it out of its hole. I then tapped that hole and made the handle out of a 5/8" HT bolt from my useful box.

Eric,
my badge is still off the machine, so I'll scan it for you tomorrow. You may be able to just vectorize the image and send it to your CAD package to clean up.
It would be good if you then made a few spares or made the CAM file or G-Code available to other enthusiasts.

Cheers and Happy Easter,
Joe

Originally Posted by jhovel

Thanks again Bob!
The colour has actually grown on me. It's quite a pleasant pastel green under all the dirt and oil. The old handle actually wansn't joined properly and I could just push it out of its hole. I then tapped that hole and made the handle out of a 5/8" HT bolt from my useful box.

Eric,
my badge is still off the machine, so I'll scan it for you tomorrow. You may be able to just vectorize the image and send it to your CAD package to clean up.
It would be good if you then made a few spares or made the CAM file or G-Code available to other enthusiasts.

Cheers and Happy Easter,
Joe

CAM file , G - Code ... Ahh. I'll pack up my Box Brownie and leave it up to you Joe.
B Ludd T

ps. If you do need some photos of a badge that isn't too badly bent out of shape , let me know.

Originally Posted by Anorak Bob

LL I can tomorrow.

Rod M's near pristine Douglas is without the badge and doesn't look undressed. The badge is LOUD, the sort of thing that wouldn't look out of place on a car boot. It's also made of sinker material.

BT

Bob,

Thanks much appreciated. I dont really notice the badges are missing but...I .am aware there is no other marking to tell future generations what the machines are. This is something I can fix so I may as well.

Originally Posted by jhovel

Thanks again Bob!
The colour has actually grown on me. It's quite a pleasant pastel green under all the dirt and oil. The old handle actually wansn't joined properly and I could just push it out of its hole. I then tapped that hole and made the handle out of a 5/8" HT bolt from my useful box.

Eric,
my badge is still off the machine, so I'll scan it for you tomorrow. You may be able to just vectorize the image and send it to your CAD package to clean up.
It would be good if you then made a few spares or made the CAM file or G-Code available to other enthusiasts.

Cheers and Happy Easter,
Joe

If they dont take too long to cut I will make some spares. Regardless I don't mind making the gcode available.

Eric,
here is the 1:1 scan of the badge. You will need to save the full size image (zoom in then save) to get the best detail.
The dimensions are 155mmm x 23mm x 4mm (pretty close to exactly).
The original is very sooft as Bob indicated. I straightened everything out as good as I could but notice some "wobbles" in the straight lines in the scan still.

Cheers,
Joe

Joe,

Thanks can you give me some idea on thickness? looks like there are two thciknesses to consider.

Also what does the mounting consist of ?

Eric

Overall thickness is 4mm as mentioned. I'll go and measure the thickness of the embossed strip at the bottom, but it's around 1mm less.
The mounting is by 2 countersunk 3/16" W brass screws cast into the back. If you were to make the replicas in brass, I'd just solder them on to the back, as the mounting holes on the ram are also countersunk.
Cheers,
Joe