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14th August 2007, 05:55 PM #1
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Where to put the stays?
Hi All,
This is kind of a general question, but because it's about a steel frame door I thought I would post it here.
Anyway I have this steel framed door (see picture) - it is 3m wide and about 2.7 high and is hinged on the AED side.
Now my question is, where is the best place to put a stay (or should I put in 2)? ie should I put one from A to F and F to D, or just D to B, etc.
Sooo many options, I'm confused. Is there some rule about the best location?Cheers.
Vernon.
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14th August 2007, 06:13 PM #2
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Given the size of the door I would put two in from A to F and E to C.
What ever stays you put in will work better in tension not compression.Have a nice day - Cheers
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14th August 2007, 06:33 PM #3
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Cut a bit out off the E to F and run one from A to C then re weld the crossbar to the stay
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14th August 2007, 07:42 PM #4
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Dear Vernon,
I assume you are referring to diagonal braces for your frame.
You can run diagonal braces from B to E to C, or, from A to F to D.
Either configuration will stop point B from dropping, providing the hinge points are rigid.
Regards,
Ken
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14th August 2007, 08:11 PM #5
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most definately put the diagonal brace from a to c. You will only need a piece of 6mm rod if you do it that way. If you want the brace the other way, d to b, then the brace would need to be much heavier because it is a compression load, not extension like the first way, a to c.
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14th August 2007, 08:29 PM #6
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Thanks for the input everyone.
OK, so we are looking for tension, rather than compression.
So is there any huge benefit to having only 2 stays (AF, EC) as opposed to 1 (AC)?Cheers.
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14th August 2007, 10:52 PM #7
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15th August 2007, 12:59 AM #8
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45 degree angle is the strongest brace, close as possible to that. So a to c would be close (the gate's almost square, 3x2.7), where as 'a to f' is nowhere near 45degree.
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15th August 2007, 10:03 AM #9
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OK, I will cut the EF bar (as djstimber suggested) and run a continuous stay from A to C. Then reweld EF.
Thanks everyone for your input.Cheers.
Vernon.
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