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Thread: Tailstock Turret
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8th June 2009, 05:35 PM #1
Tailstock Turret
Been thinking about getting a tailstock turret, however I have never seen one in the flesh or in operation.
The only one I could find was from Enco, see HERE.
Does anyone have comments, for or against, about tailstock turrets. At the moment my application is a repeated 2 step drilling process, where I need to centre drill/60deg recess then enlarge the hole with a twist drill.
So I have the choice of changing from centre drill to normal drill for each item, or swap the item in the chuck, centre drill them all, then do that again for the twist drill. Gets a bit much, I amm doing the drill swapping method at present, but it would be nice to just flip to another chuck drill in the tailstock.
As I am getting some more tooling from the US, via a friend as assembly point, this seems an opportune time to get one, together with the accessories kit.
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8th June 2009, 06:06 PM #2
Fred first link Here missing
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8th June 2009, 06:28 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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Suppose for about $200 if you have a use for it get one,have you thought of just using an other drill chuck,or getting a drill ground to do your opperation in one,(im taking it that your drill hole is not greater than 1/2".
Have you been able to find out what locates the tool post in the correct position,I mean on the centre line of spindle,and also how the turret is locked.
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8th June 2009, 06:40 PM #6
Nope, that is one of the reasons I asked the question here. I am "assuming" that the turret works in such a way that each hole lines up with the centre line as it gets rotated in place. I am also assuming that the little lever thingie to the left of the turret head locks it in place.
Looking at the accessory kit, I could just buy 2 5/8 arbors and 2 chucks, either key or keyless. My current keyless chuck tends to have problems holding 1.5-2.5mm drills properly without slipping, so a 1/4" or 3/8" chcuk wouldn't go astray either.
At the moment I probably wouldn't have a use for all the bits in the accessory kit.
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8th June 2009, 06:50 PM #7Intermediate Member
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google mick moyle's, has them with #2 taper for $125 + gst.
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8th June 2009, 07:08 PM #8
Thanks, found it (bloody hard work!)
That site needs some maintenance, none o f the links at the top of the page work, all except Specials, give you a Page Not Found error! Found the turret tailstock under Specials.
Looks very similar to the Enco one. Working on an exchange rate of 0.78 the Enco one is about $A88, the Moyle one about $A140, quite a difference.
As I have tooling coming from the US anyway, it would actually cost less in delivery for the US one than the Oz one I'm guessing. Both probably came from China in the first place!
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8th June 2009, 07:17 PM #9
i think the turret in that link is a copy of a the Myford one looks to be fine. when i was at school we had a 2nd MT with a collet in it to hold a center drill, good idea to have it wouldn't take much space and save you having to change drills in your chuck all the time. give some thought to getting a set of ER 20 to 32 collets you can use them in your headstock for small stock or in the tailstock for reamers and stuff
happy turning
Patrick
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8th June 2009, 07:45 PM #10
Well Patrick, if I may be allowed to quote you:
This old guy (notice I'm not afraid to display my age?) had ER collets before he bought a metal lathe. Was (and am) using them on the wood lathe for my pen turning, best thing since slice bread. In fact I have written about them in the pen mandrels thread somewhere.
The more I think about this tailstock turret, the more I like the idea, I use centre drills a lot as a first step and it would make things a lot easier not having to swap them out. The temptation is always there to by-pass them atm.
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8th June 2009, 08:11 PM #11
lol ok maybe im to young found you a quick change tail stock turret on Ebay the price is very high compared to the Enco ones but could be better quality
now you quoted me from the bearing indexing thread i saw that in the old posts on a blog months ago since im nice the blog is called CNC cook book great site with heaps HEAPS of info after you go there you should head over to the HMEM if you already haven't its a great site oh and Practical Machinest i mean what i said before we should put up a thread for all these links and tips for around the work shop ...............hey are you going to make a ball turner? PM me when the idea hits you i have some ideas and plans
well that the nightly off topic rant from the youngenhappy turning
Patrick
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8th June 2009, 09:06 PM #12Senior Member
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A tailstock turret can save a lot of tool changing if you have to make a shed load of the same parts, scale model nuts etc. I got this one off feepay, the insides needed fettling to make it work sweetly but it was cheap.
An alternative as mentioned above, is to turn up a few 2MT arbors & fit them with the most used drills/cutter whatever. Note they will need a lug on the tail end (left one in the picture) if you have an ejecting tailstock.
Mark
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8th June 2009, 09:42 PM #13
Thanks Patrick, but I think I might give the Epay one a miss, $300 for a secondhand one, then he wants $28 delivery! Cost only a little more to get it delivered from the US for Pete's sake.
I love the CNC Cookbook site, have been visiting that since before I bought my lathe, I occasionally drop in on the Practical Machinist, but only discovered HMEM (there's that acronym again!) when you mentioned it the other day. Haven't really had time to have a good look.
I find I need to ration my internet time so that I can actually play with my toys in the shed, rather than just read about possible projects and techniques!
The 4 bolt tool post base, the ball turner and the tumbler reverse were going to be my first 3 projects. Done the 4 bolt tool post, but wasn't happy with the outcome (ambitions and capabilities) so decided I would go and actually make some things on the lathe and the mill, have learnt heaps since, so may revisit the 4 bolt toolpost thingie.
Mark, thanks for showing your turret, looks good, again it reinforces my believe that it will be a useful addition to the tool cupboard (need to fill all those drawers you know).
Not really keen on swapping 2MT with drill bits stuck in them though.
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8th June 2009, 09:57 PM #14Ashore
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8th June 2009, 10:48 PM #15
There is (was?) a wonderful book out called "The Amateur Lathe" by "Smalley"? I had this book when I was a teenager and It was full of the most fabulous info that a newbie to the lathe could ever obtain. The book also contained a full set of working drawings for many extra accessories that one could build for the lathe. The book centered heavily around the Myford Super 7. One of the projects fully described with drawings was a tailstock turret. I never made one but I sure wish I did. If you can obtain this book, it is well worth the effort to have one. Just dont do what I did with mine. I lent it out (to our family doctor and friend) and never got it back. That was over 30 years ago. Never ever lend out this book.
Kody
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