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    Default Tangential Trickery

    Hi Fellas,
    Unfortunately I can't claim to have thought this up as it was posted on another forum this morning, the poster suggested rotating the toolbit in a tangential holder 90 degrees clockwise and using it as a vertical shear tool, gave it a go this afternoon and I must say I'm quite impressed with the result, the material is the dreaded "black bar" DOC .03 mm, rate .03 mm/rev @ 250 RPM.
    Regards,
    Martin
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    Hi Toolman,

    What sort of results where you getting on the blackbar using the D.T in the normal way? Cause the results your posting are great. I've got a D.T but can't get anywhere near that finish with blackbar (though the stuff I'm using is really horrible).

    Ben

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    Hi Ben,
    The end of the material held in the chuck was turned with the normal tool setup.
    Regards.
    Martin

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    You can get the same effect with a normal toolbit, ground and presented to the work in a similar way.
    With soluble oil coolant and low speed, I was shown (North Sydney TAFE, night course, 1980s) how to do this to get a very clean finish, suitable for running an oil seal on, without need for grinding afterwards.
    The arrangement isn't sensitive to tool height adjustment, as there's always a point along the sloping front tool face that is at the correct height.

    Jordan

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    Hi Martin,

    Thought I'd show my efforts at turning black bar.

    Bear in mind this is welding/structural bb (I only use it because I got a heap of it for free).

    The photo DTH shows the turned BB. The finish at the headstock end is turned by the DTH with a Crobolt piece, the other end is by carbide.

    Ben.
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    Default Contrary Ground Finishing Tool

    Here is a link to "The Contrary Ground Finishing Tool" which explains a little more about the angles.

    http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/2573836/...FinishTool.pdf


    I have ground this tool and used it for years. It gives a nice finish when used with a very slow feed.
    Hadn't thought about turning the tool around in my DTH. Must try it.

    Michael.

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    Default Last picture in pdf file

    Quote Originally Posted by triton2 View Post
    Here is a link to "The Contrary Ground Finishing Tool" which explains a little more about the angles.

    http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/2573836/...FinishTool.pdf


    I have ground this tool and used it for years. It gives a nice finish when used with a very slow feed.
    Hadn't thought about turning the tool around in my DTH. Must try it.

    Michael.
    Thanks Michael,

    I wasnt understanding this concept at all until I saw the last picture in your pdf file.

    Its all very clear now.

    Bill

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