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    Default Thankyou and good night

    Well guys it's been fun knowing you all over the years but I just had one too many non offensive, non contentious posting deleted on this forum.
    Take care, thanks and goodbye.

    Mods?, can you delete my account and all images and posts relating to it.

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    I would not be too worried about it... It is part and parcel of being on a forum. Sometimes when a shotgun gets fired unintended targets get hit... Collateral damage I believe is the term...
    Light red, the colour of choice for the discerning man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graziano View Post
    Well guys it's been fun knowing you all over the years but I just had one too many non offensive, non contentious posting deleted on this forum.
    Take care, thanks and goodbye.

    Mods?, can you delete my account and all images and posts relating to it.
    I can understand why some people feel the need to post messages like this - When I feel like this I usually take 48 hours to cool off and reconsider.
    We should all remember that this is a privately run site and the owner can set any rule and take any action he sees fit.

    Hope we see you again soon

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    Hi Graziano,

    Seems like I must have missed something here?

    Just my opinion, whatever is was, don't react too hastily,

    I for one enjoy the perspective and knowledge you bring to the forum, I'm sure plenty of others feel the same. I'd would be a shame if you decided to leave.

    Regards
    Ray

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    There's still PM. Even metalmunchr there hasn't censored any of my posts....

    Funny world. We have a debate in Federal Parliament and a vote on whether homosexuals can enter into the holy state of matrimony yet mention of the L word here gets a post yanked. I wonder if anyone would care to tell our Federal finance minister that it's an offensive word?

    I don't dispute the right of the forum owner & mods to do as they see fit here, I know I would and be totally arbitrary about it, however that doesn't mean I have to respect the mentality behind it. Obey it, sure, but not respect it.

    I wonder how long this entire thread will last.

    PDW

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    Mods, please don't close Graziano's account and please don't delete his valuable contributions and photos!
    Some of us would like him to continue to contribute.
    If he offends someone's (owner's or mods') rules, just explain how and why - and if his posts need editing to meet the rules, then please ask him to - not just make them disappear.

    There has been occasion where I have have been afforded that courtesy and I was able to 'correct the errors of my ways' (which were not premeditated or maliocious) - and I think Graziano's 'misdemeanors' would have been equally modified to meet the required standard - I suspect.

    Some further comments from mods would help. Graziano's contributions were valued by at least this reader.
    Cheers,
    Joe
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    Just a small point for you to remember. This forum is permitted to be used in schools.
    If a sufficient number of words on the Google hit list appear in these forums then we will be banned from the schools.

    This means we have to moderate to a extremely benign level.

    The orange room was established for all users who wish to be slightly colourful in their language.
    We will not pull your posts in there.

    Dave..

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    OK, David, that helps explain the standard required - and I had no idea that it was accessible to children in schools.
    However, to help keep that required standard, 'suspending from public view' a message that pushes the 'questionable word count' into the 'red' or 'blue', and asking the contributor to edit something (maybe while leaving the message count intact by something like a placeholder "currently under review - check back later" message would be much less puzzling to readers and may not offend the contributor enought to wish to leave.
    My $0.02's worth. Please consider.
    Cheers,
    Joe
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    I had a thread I had started on the PM antique forum, it was closed because it was a ATLAS lathe I was asking about. The moderator closed the thread because the lathe isn't a industrial spec. lathe. Talk about being pedantic , it was a ridiculous state of affairs , but you cannot argue with them as this would make things even worse .

    On another occassion my post , on a UK antique radio forum was pulled because of , quote " strange puntuation ". I PM'd the moderator and gave him a whole barrage of aussie swear words . No doubt , he is a stuffy pommy who had gone to a public school , he didn't like my puntuation

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    Default Please Dont Leave

    Graziano
    Please do not leave.
    There is not a person here on planet earth, that has not made a mistake.
    We value your input.
    I have no idea what all this is about.
    However just stay with us.
    regards
    Bruce

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    Life is way too short to be getting your smalls stained about silly words.
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    This is a METALWORK forum. On the WWF there are many forums for all sorts of topics, even those that are a bit offensive for some. They are kept in an appropriate place called the Orange Room where Google spiders will not detect them. The removal of the words, which were off topic, was done to remove the risk of the Woodwork Forums being blacklisted from educational sites. We do not know exactly how Google categorises sites but it seems that a grouping of words in a certain density causes a change. In the past the WWF was blocked temporarily from schools for precisely this reason.

    Please note that some of the posts were removed, not because of what they said, but simply because they quoted other posts that were removed. The mods try to keep with the intent of the rules but can never satisfy everyone. Some say we do too much, others too little

    Finally, the forum rules are pretty clear about what is and is not allowed, part of them is posted below and is hyper-linked to the complete post for those who would like to read what they agreed to when they joined.

    You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use these Forums to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violates any law. You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by the Forums.

    The owner, administrators and moderators of this Forums reserve the right to delete any message or members for any or no reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold blameless these Forums, U-Beaut Enterprises the administrators, moderators, and their agents with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s).




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    Mark,

    Don't jump ship. Your knowlege and input on this forum is too valuable to lose.

    Bob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhovel View Post
    OK, David, that helps explain the standard required - and I had no idea that it was accessible to children in schools.
    However, to help keep that required standard, 'suspending from public view' a message that pushes the 'questionable word count' into the 'red' or 'blue', and asking the contributor to edit something (maybe while leaving the message count intact by something like a placeholder "currently under review - check back later" message would be much less puzzling to readers and may not offend the contributor enought to wish to leave.
    My $0.02's worth. Please consider.
    Sometimes posts are edited. However, once you have multiple responses underway in a thread it becomes a complete mess. You stop, say, four posts and ask people to edit them. The first poster changes his but now the second post is referring to something that is now gone. Same with the third and fourth posts, it is just not manageable, sorry. Also, mods are not watching every thread, though we try to. Usually a post is reported and we then have a look at the thread. You also have problems with people who do not read their messages, log off for days etc. This leaves the posts invisible but the responses visible, then people ask why and it gets messy again.

    I could go on but I hope you can see what happens. This is also why a members account is never deleted, it creates holes in threads all over the place and they no longer make sense. The only accounts fully removed belong to spammers. I hope this clarifies it a bit for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groggy View Post
    . On the WWF there are many forums for all sorts of topics,
    Would that be the World Wildlife Federation or the World Wrestling Federation? Can you smell what the Rock is cooking? That's just a joke B.T.W One saves Panda's the other eats them.

    How ever the former sued the latter for those naming rights.

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