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    If the poor English description is to be believed, it can swing 180mm but the cross slide travel (called compound in the ad) is only 75mm. So you can only face something 150mm at absolute most. More like 140 with a bit of room to spare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    If the poor English description is to be believed, it can swing 180mm but the cross slide travel (called compound in the ad) is only 75mm. So you can only face something 150mm at absolute most. More like 140 with a bit of room to spare.

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    Interesting that model D180/300 is not listed in Optimum's current catalog.

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    It could be old stock and then again it could be a copy made in China by liw818's cousins.....

    If you can't go and look don't touch it! I think you have already said this anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtc View Post
    Interesting that model D180/300 is not listed in Optimum's current catalog.
    Ha Ha. It gets even better ..................!!!!!!!

    Buyer beware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    It could be old stock and then again it could be a copy made in China by liw818's cousins.....

    If you can't go and look don't touch it! I think you have already said this anyway.

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    Yes, I won't buy a lathe "site unseen", as they say in the real estate business.

    I am going to ask Optimum Germany about this ad.

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    Optimum Maschinen are a German company, their lathes are made in China to Optimum Mashinen’s specification, hence the reference to ‘German quality’ lathes. Not much point in asking Optimum about the add, many importers import bulk lots (not just lathes) from China, if the item sells well they order more, if not? As Ueee said, if you can’t see and feel, don’t touch! I think Gasweld import lathes from Taiwan if your not into Chinese lathes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by th62 View Post
    I think Gasweld import lathes from Taiwan if your not into Chinese lathes.
    I'm not anti-Chinese lathes per se, just trying to avoid bad ones.

    Interesting that there may still be Taiwanese lathes on the market locally. I've read that the Taiwanese units had a pretty good reputation back when.

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    Taiwanese machines have a better reputation in general than Chinese machines. China can produce some really good stuff but unfortunately the importers want to beat the prices down so more and more corners are cut so they can produce the machines for the extraordinary low prices.
    My Antrac lathe, Deans CY, RC's big lathe and probably heaps more. All Taiwanese and all very good machines. The 960B is another common Taiwanese machine that is generally a step above the Chinese machines.

    BUT at least my Antrac lacks the finish quality and attention to detail as my English and US made machines. I can't speak for the others but i would guess they are the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    Taiwanese machines have a better reputation in general than Chinese machines. China can produce some really good stuff but unfortunately the importers want to beat the prices down so more and more corners are cut so they can produce the machines for the extraordinary low prices.
    My Antrac lathe, Deans CY, RC's big lathe and probably heaps more. All Taiwanese and all very good machines. The 960B is another common Taiwanese machine that is generally a step above the Chinese machines.

    BUT at least my Antrac lacks the finish quality and attention to detail as my English and US made machines. I can't speak for the others but i would guess they are the same.

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    I would agree about my CY although it does fit in the really good Chinese bracket. Solid and well made. Although out of the price range, Gasweld have a 30 in (?) that was my choice until I went second hand and I have seen many positive comments about it. I don't know about their rep regarding after sales service. My local is only a dealer and I won't buy anything from them anymore. That is no reflection on Gasweld tho. I think they are pretty good in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldneweng View Post
    I would agree about my CY although it does fit in the really good Chinese bracket. Solid and well made. Although out of the price range, Gasweld have a 30 in (?) that was my choice until I went second hand and I have seen many positive comments about it. I don't know about their rep regarding after sales service. My local is only a dealer and I won't buy anything from them anymore. That is no reflection on Gasweld tho. I think they are pretty good in general.

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    Hi all , new to this site and i am also looking to relace a chineese lathe with something with quality ! I have spent the last two days looking everywhere on the net to no avail ! I currently have a Hafco metal Master AL50GA, It has been ok for the last two years but now i want more . It has been reliable but with little issues like sloppy slide movement , pins falling out of power feed etc, All that have been replaced and adjustments made etc . I use 12x12 tooling , have a quick change tool post, heaps of tools etc and would like to keep them for my next lathe. I am interested in looking at a second hand Hercus or Southbend etc . I am not sure where to start looking for them as yet but if anyone has one , let me know , cheers all !

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    Hi Holmatas and Welcome.
    First thing may be to let us know where in Aus you are.
    You can always use your small tooling on a bigger lathe, just not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    Hi Holmatas and Welcome.
    First thing may be to let us know where in Aus you are.
    You can always use your small tooling on a bigger lathe, just not the other way around.

    Cheers,
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    Thanks Ewan, I am inTasmainia, bit of a backwater when in need of machinery etc, cheers mark

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    I also reckon the CQ9325 would suit my needs down to the ground. Why don't Paramount still sell it?

    http://au.alibaba.com/product/153804...g-Milling.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by oz94 View Post
    I also reckon the CQ9325 would suit my needs down to the ground. Why don't Paramount still sell it?
    Not being the owner I couldn't answer that. Possibly because it was becoming too expensive for them to stock, possibly because they were getting too many complaints about them and did not want the trouble. Maybe they got a better offer from another wholesaler.

    As for the lathe, I notice on that one that the tail stock looks high in proportion to the machine, so it is a mill/lathe combo machine. While that is great for turning large diameter work the trade off is decreased rigidity. Rule of thumb is that the majority of work that you do on a lathe should be less than 1/3 the swing. If you were going to go the milling option with it too that is not so bad (you need that height) but otherwise perhaps not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oz94 View Post
    I also reckon the CQ9325 would suit my needs down to the ground. Why don't Paramount still sell it?

    http://au.alibaba.com/product/153804...g-Milling.html
    If you seriously think that 'lathe' would serve your needs, either your needs are for work that has tolerances in the plus/minus millimeter range, or you haven't a clue about machine tools.

    That machine is a pathetic joke of a lathe.

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