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    Jim, I'm certainly no expert on this but to try and answer several points....case hardening will generally not penetrate as far depending upon a lot of different things...I only mentioned it to draw your attention to the fact that mild steel can be hardened and case hardening is but one way, it's easy and cheap, certainly not rocket science but unless you control all the variables, I can guarantee you won't get the same result twice.....I use it for face hardening small components, have never tried it on edges and wouldn't think it'd be much chop (parden the pun!) as your cutting face will cop all the wear and a case hardened edge would flake easily in my opinion and be next to useless.

    Regarding annealing...and I don't want to go off topic here so will keep this quite short...I assume most people on this forum would have annealed at variuous stages and got differing results - I know I have ......you can harden mild steel and subsequently anneal it for temper but regarding copper and it's alloys......it is usually the opposite...you anneal brass and copper to soften from work hardening.....

    There are others far more knowledgable on this forum than I who can show you how to harden your cutters while at the same time release the temper so they are not brittle.....case hardening will make the edges brittle.....look nice though, but useless for what you want...

    Think I'd second the other posters like Marc and suggest a welder........... hope that helps............Lee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stustoys View Post
    Thats what I would have said, but I just had a quick look on ebay for "hard facing rods", there is a guy selling some 3.2mm rods(about the biggest I would guess you could use for $20(hrc) or $30(hrc55) for 2kg. "It has a HRC (hardness of deposited metal) of roughly 55"
    55 what? I have no idea.

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    Danger Will Robinson. I've used cheap electrodes and had problems. Rally brand. The second half of the box went in the bin.

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    Hi Bryan,
    Good point, I'd forgotten just how bad bad rods can be.

    Stuart

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    Sure can be, but some welding supplies sell the hard facing rods by the unit so for a small job it should be cheap.
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    I was in my local bolt shop, they have packs(about 12?) of hard facing rods from Magmaweld for $17.30+
    Though I didnt check what sort and it turns out they make 14 different sorts.

    Stuart

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