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7th September 2011, 11:15 AM #1Member
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Turning black coral. Got a question.
Heya.
The other day a friend gave me a largish branch of black coral that had been sitting in his shed for years.
I'm ecstatic given that I was looking to see where I could get some after seeing the beautiful results gawdelpus achieved in his thread
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f69/ma...-coral-134631/
Not entirely sure what species of coral I have. It has a greenish grey exterior - very rough. almost like sharkskin. Turning it produces a burning bone smell and papery brown shavings. When polished it goes initially a deep glassy black, then something unusual. Hence my question here.
Given it's glassy, stony texture I polished it like I would a resin blank. Turned down to about 1/2 a mil larger then wanted, sanded from 150 down to 600 grit. Then water soaked micromesh pads. Once I'd gotten to 12,000 grit MM, the texture was unusual. A deep glassy black with impurities. But as it dried; and it dried much faster than I'd expect, like in seconds, the surface went from slippery smooth to almost tacky. Rubbery maybe. Certainly there seemed to be a lot of friction for some reason. Then I noticed that the glassy black colour developed a substantial silvery sheen.
This appeared very quickly. It went away again when I polished it with a wet MM pad but came back when it dried again. I left it for a while and it seemed to fade by about 50% over a period of an hour but was still highly visible.
Next I gave it another polish with EEE cream followed by a rub with Brasso and the silvery colour disappeared almost entirely, as did the slightly rubbery/tacky surface (note. These photos don't do the pen justice as my photography skills are... lacking).
Does anyone have any idea what might have caused that silvery colour?
I had the thought that it may have been water, absorbed during the wet 'n dry polishing and condensing in between the layers - visible through the glassy material.
Also - is wet polishing appropriate for this type of material. It is a porous substance after all. Should I treat it like wood and just sand to 600-1200 grit dry, then EEE cream polish?
Suggestions? Comments?
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7th September 2011, 11:28 AM #2
Black coral is actually a plant. It will react in the same way that a very hard wood will.
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7th September 2011, 06:38 PM #3Old Fart (my step daughters named me)
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That pen is great.
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7th September 2011, 06:45 PM #4Member
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Not half as interesting as the first one I made. however I gave that one to the guy who game me the coral as a thank you.
I'll have to ask him if i can borrow it to take a few photos. i tried as I gave it to him but in low light, focus was right out.
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7th September 2011, 07:35 PM #5
Very nice.
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Cheers John
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7th September 2011, 11:31 PM #6
You certainly had a windfall there ! hehe,It may be a bit different to what I used, mine was very hard I had to cut it with a hacksaw.I drilled it with water ,was weird really the shavings came out like seaweed and you could smell the sea I swear lol.I just treated it as an acrilic for sanding and polishing ,a few small defects filled with CA and usual polish and buff.You did a great job on it though,My stuff seemed to have no real features like your sample.Cheers ~ John
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8th September 2011, 12:08 AM #7
Looks great, although I would have used a CA finish to ensure its longevity
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8th September 2011, 03:06 PM #8
Now you watered it, it will sprout another pen! Lovely work, Amos
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8th September 2011, 11:05 PM #9
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9th September 2011, 10:39 AM #10
I heard that Snicker , Charlie! Amos
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9th September 2011, 01:21 PM #11Skwair2rownd
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Nice looking pen !!
Pity it didn't retain the colouring in the first photo.
I question Powderpost's assertion about coral being a plant.Coral is made up from the calcerous secretions of thousands , nay millions, of polyps. I f my memeory serves ma correctly polyps are members of the animal kingdom. I am not aware of any plants that secrete calcium to lay down a supporting skeleton.
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9th September 2011, 01:46 PM #12
I agree Artme some of mine had tiny bits of shell embedded, it was deep water coral,came up in a trawler net I think, there are some that grow at shallower levels , I believe it can take hundreds of years to achieve any size. I also believe its dust is pretty toxic ,so masks are a must . On another note ,coming from the ocean may be the discolerations shown were tiny salt crystals, purely a guess however cheers ~ John
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9th September 2011, 08:49 PM #13
Black coral is a tree like coral, but definately a coral, not a plant. The black coral we use to make pens actually comes from the dead sections of coral.
It is a protected species and I have seen heaps in Fiji whilst diving. The locals use it to carve pendants etc. I have seen a large enough dead section for pens, but it was tangled amongst the live plant and I couldn't get it loose. It is extremely strong, I couldn't even break off a section of the ~20mm branch. I have a diamond hacksaw blade I take with me diving these daysNeil____________________________________________Every day presents an opportunity to learn something new
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9th September 2011, 09:51 PM #14
No expert on coral but what you have is made up from dead polyps. Maybe soaking it in fresh water for a lengthy period would help to remove impurites, a bit like old Roman coins that you have to soak for long periods and then scrub with a silver brush to remove stains and impurites. As suggested I would certainly be sealing it with CA to lock in the colours. However, may I suggest you contact one of the scientists at your local Department of Fisheries or a marine biologist at a University for advice on the cleaning and sealing.
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9th September 2011, 09:55 PM #15
Geez Neil - the only diving I do is when I slip in the bath tub
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