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Thread: CA and PPG Headache problem
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5th October 2011, 08:58 PM #1
CA and PPG Headache problem
CA makes my head spin and PPG gives me a headache.
I have seen some threads where only EEE and a polish were used. I have tried this method previously but after 2 months I have had people complain that there are stains on the timber (probably from sweat) and also a copper pen leaches onto the timber turning it green.
If I turn and finish the bare timber blank with dry MM (which I did with success today) and then apply EEE what polish should I use to protect the timber from sweat and the copper leaching????? I know its not going to be as shiny as CA or PPG but what the hell. Any ideas
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5th October 2011, 10:30 PM #2Senior Member
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I haven't used copper fittings so I can't comment of a finish to stop the colour leeching, but I use EEE and Shellawax Glow on most of my pens now as it's nice and quick and leaves a natural timber feel to the pen (not that there is anything wrong with CA). The very first pen I turned was finished with EEE and Glow and I have not had any staining or adverse wear problem...and that was almost 3 years ago now. Natural oils from your hand will add some lustre to the finish, I use my pen every day and it looks even better (more character) than when it was new.
Paul
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5th October 2011, 10:33 PM #3
Hey Plantagenon. EEE is NOT a finish, it is a cutting /sanding compound, also called Rotten Stone. You sand to around 800 then EEE the blank, then several Coates of Shellawax, using a small amount of pressure on the applicator rag or pad to create heat friction, then a couple of Coates of Traditional Wax, and you will have a semi gloss silky smooth natural long lasting finish. Check out U Beaut finishes web site !.
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6th October 2011, 09:12 AM #4Cheers Rum Pig
It is easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.
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6th October 2011, 05:49 PM #5
Without CA or WOP the finish will wear off, Amos
Good, better, best, never let it rest;
Til your good is better, and your
better, best.
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7th October 2011, 02:22 PM #6
I did my first pen with organoil hard burnishing oil
It soaks in and then is burnished - still looks good - but not shiny like ca
Have you tried Rustins plastic coating. Description Hereregards
Nick
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Without wood it's just ...
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7th October 2011, 07:51 PM #7
CA should be applied in a well ventilated area. I usually wear a mask too and a fan to drive the fumes away from me.
Reality is no background music.
Cheers John
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7th October 2011, 08:43 PM #8Senior Member
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Have you considered a water based finish like Cabot's Crystal Clear or Clear Floor? There have virtually no fumes, they dry quickly and are reasonably hard.
Most of the floors in our house are finished with Clear Floor. The oldest are two bedrooms done fourteen years ago. They still look pretty good after three children so the finish should survive on a pen.
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10th October 2011, 12:30 AM #9
just an FYI .. when you say traditional wax, I assume you mean a bar of hard wax?
I know people who will use a paste wax and do 'several coats' .. not realizing that
paste wax contains it's own solvent. That solvent removes each previous coat of wax,
so when you put on "3 coats" you're really removing and replacing the first coat every
time. Not that I've ever done this myself ... no, not me!maker of the original ResinSaver mold
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10th October 2011, 09:31 AM #10
Here ya go TRADITIONAL WAX
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10th October 2011, 07:50 PM #11
Remember some timbers can still look good without a finish. I regularly leave ebony and African blackwood bare because the oil content within gives them their own sheen.
Light coloured timbers normally suffer if unfinished, although my daily writer is olivewood and the finish is long since worn away. It still looks good. Again, oily timber though.
For finishing without the headache, I still suggest lacquer or polyurethane but wear a good mask when doing it (not a disposable as they're generally insufficient IMHO). It'll cost a bit but in the long run it should cut the fumes down and help with you finishing with chemicals. I wear a 3m filter built to handle chemical fumes and it always works."That's impossible. Nobody can give more than 100%. By definition that is the most anyone can give"
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10th October 2011, 11:03 PM #12
I can't handle CA for finishing so will never use it. I have used the hard pen wax sticks from Carbatec and flannellette held against the turned pen blanks to burnish them. I've had no problem with the finish coming off.... I use the shavings to buff the pens first as well.
Marg.
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11th October 2011, 12:22 AM #13
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