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21st July 2008, 10:58 AM #1
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Closed End Pen
I recently purchased 2 closed end pen mandrels from Arizona Silhouette and got the Ed Davidson video that goes with it. I have admired these closed end pens and set myself the challenge of making some.
I took part in a pen swap on The Penshop (TPS) forum in the US and decided that this was a good reason to try and extend myself. Funny part was that with all those seppos taking part I got paired with bdar (Darren) from Oz and a very active member here.
I found this somewhat daunting and he is a much more experience (and capable) pen turner than yours truly.
So with some trepidation I selected a Yellow Box blank, the theme for the swap was "local timber". This blank could not be more "local" as it came form a big branch blown off a big Yellow Box on our property. This happened during a "mini" cyclone in January 2005 and we were "marooned" for about 12 hours, with both our long driveway and the road being blocked with heaps of fallen timber.
I can honestly say I got a real kick out of making this closed end pen, a Baron fountain pen, which is also the first fountain pen I have evr made. I have made so few pens that it isn't hard for things to be a first!
It was an interesting exercise, these closed end pens allow for a lot of creativity in shape.
I am pleased with result, as was Darren, you can judge for yourself.
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21st July 2008, 11:06 AM #2
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Fred, that is classy looking, well finished and well fitted. Now I must go and try and get some closed end mandrels! Amos
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21st July 2008, 11:14 AM #3
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That's a fancy bit of turning right there. I like the overall effect very much. Well done!
How long does a pen blank need to be for one of those? Would a standard pen blank be enough?
When all is said and done, there is usually a whole lot more said than done.
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21st July 2008, 11:19 AM #4
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Cisco, the cap end needs about 2" and the nib end minimum 3", but you then need a bit extra to put the live centre in/on and a bit of room for parting off, so I would say minimum 5 1/2 inches. All the blanks I have been cutting so far I have cut 6", so that is OK.
Originally Posted by ciscokid
That's a fancy bit of turning right there. I like the overall effect very much. Well done! How long does a pen blank need to be for one of those? Would a standard pen blank be enough?
You would be pushing your luck with a 5" blank.
This is for the Baron, I haven't done any (yet) ith my Jr Gent II/Jr Statesman mandrel, but I would assume about the same.
The Ed Davidson video explains it very well and the accompanying drawings on how to drill these, it is a 2 step process, are very clear.
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21st July 2008, 11:32 AM #5
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That looks very nice. Quiet, understated .. quite nice.
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21st July 2008, 11:39 AM #6
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Very nice BS, that is one sweet CE FP there
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21st July 2008, 10:18 PM #7
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Yes i was truly lucky in getting Fred as my partner. A closed end pen for starters and a fountain pen to boot. My favoured pen for writing
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21st July 2008, 10:29 PM #8
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Hi BS,
The pens look great, I will have to have a go.
Did you get 10 mm Mandrel or 7mm ? and I surpose you have to get works for the pen,Cost ??
Regards
David
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21st July 2008, 10:58 PM #9
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Hi David, I got the Baron and the Jr Gent nib end mandrels, they also have cap end mandrels. They were (round figures) $US22 each, with another $US4.50 for a spare bush. Originally Posted by David Mitchell
Hi BS,
The pens look great, I will have to have a go.
Did you get 10 mm Mandrel or 7mm ? and I surpose you have to get works for the pen,Cost ??
Regards
David
Quite nifty machining on these, even if I never make another closed end pen (highly unlikely!) I reckon it was money well spent.
Next order will probably get the cap end mandrels as well, or might even have a go at making my own once I get my metal working lathe
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21st July 2008, 11:12 PM #10
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Big Shed,
You should be please, that is a great looking pen. I was wanting to give one of those a go this weekend, but it just did not happen
Well done.
Rick
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22nd July 2008, 06:24 AM #11
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Fred,that is a very interesting concept. The pen looks great,that Darren always was a luckly fella.
When you get your metal lathe, maybe you can start selling closed end mandrels.
Terry
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23rd July 2008, 12:26 AM #12
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Some more closed ends
Big Shed, I had the same idea
7mm and 10mm pens below with 12mm (Baron closed cap) on the way 
. The diamond wood just broke 
, the 10mm (Carbatech 101) snapped after test turning the cap clip ring (btw, the 10mm is the Baron closed end mandrel from AS). The 7mm are cheap twist pens experiments.
I got the DVD as well. Good fun
David
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23rd July 2008, 09:31 AM #13
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Ouch .. that hurts. Looks like a clean break on the diamondwood.. will that glue
back together?
I just crushed the last 'Molten Metal" blank I had . .about 2 hours ago. I'm still
fuming, so I know that feeling. (drove 200 miles to get that sucker and it was the
last one they had!)
I've got to dig in and start casting blanks..
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23rd July 2008, 09:48 AM #14
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I feel sure that I have already answered this thread before!!
Another nice pen Fred you have the hang of them now you will just have to expand on the design.
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23rd July 2008, 04:22 PM #15
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NL, I've glued (CA) it back together and will trim back to a standard pen before turning. Hate to see it go to waste Originally Posted by NewLondon88
Any pics of your disaster ?? Might make me feel better
David
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