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29th March 2009, 02:29 PM #1
Pen Photography-Comments invited (wanted)
Having just bought a new digital SLR I have been playing around with the new toy, as you do.
First impressions are very favourable, certainly enjoy the extra control I have as compared to my little Konica Minolta P&S.
I am awaiting arrival of a new light tent with various bits and bobs, but I thought I would take some shots using my existing (heath robinson) lighting setup. This basically consist of a sheet of A3 white paper, curved up, with various bits of styrofoam to give control over shadows and reflections.
I have taken some photos of the Jr Gent FP that Chriselle sent me in the pen swap, it is a black Ti with black bakelite, so not the easiest to photograph.
Not a great fan of flash for this sort of photography, too harsh even with diffusers, so I use available light coming in from the left hand side of the pictures from a window with a white venetian blind on it.
Here are various shots, all taken at ISO100, f22 and +1 2/3 stops (EV). They have been taken at full resoltion (JPEG) and the original file is 4272x2848 pixels.
The photos displayed here have been uploaded to the Picasa website and reduced to 640x480.
Photo 1
Less post processing than in the other photos, basically lept the levels as they came from the camera.
Window light (filtered with venetian blind) coming from left had side of pen, white styrofoam reflector on opposite side, both at 90 deg.
Photo 2
Bumped the levels up a bit, taking some colour out of the background (closer to actual) and it also bumped up the contrast a bit.
Photo 3
Playing around with composition and placement of cap.
Photo 4
Different colour stone to add more colour to the overall effect
Photo 5
This photo (#5) omits the use of a white styrofoam reflector to fill in the shadows cast by the window light, notice also that there are fewer reflections on the pen, making it look less round.
Photo 6
This photo (#6) add a white styrofoam reflector to fill in the shadows cast by the window light, notice also that there are more white reflections on the pen, making it look rounder.
Styrofoam reflector is parallel to pen here, note effect on nib as compared to first 4 photos.
Photo 7
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29th March 2009, 02:36 PM #2
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29th March 2009, 02:37 PM #3Turned a Few
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Fred
Fred must be using that New Invisible Minwax Poly for your pen finishing.
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29th March 2009, 02:58 PM #4
All the photos look really washed out
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Nick
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29th March 2009, 03:14 PM #5
OK, you comedians, they're there now, had some problems with Picasa web albums, they look OK on the web, but when you link to them they go back to the original unedited photo.
So had to do this all over again and put them in Photobucket.
Have been palying with Picasa as a photo editor and it is fairly easy to use, but has some really odd quirks. For instance, I added some text to the 2 photos with and without reflector, shows up in Picasa but when you open them in another editor or upload to Photobucket, the text disappears and so does the cropping
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29th March 2009, 03:18 PM #6
Fred overall the photos look great.
I think the one with the brown stone give a good change to the picture. Only thing I can see with that one is that it is still a bit glary on the left of the stone.
As they say practice will make perfect in getting the right color balance and no glary spots.Jim Carroll
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29th March 2009, 03:30 PM #7
I think the brown stone takes the eye away from the pen
I prefer the last tworegards
Nick
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29th March 2009, 03:30 PM #8
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29th March 2009, 03:32 PM #9
I really like photo 3 and photo 7. Very clean
I find using a light tent helps control reflections a lot, yeah. My setup is pretty similar I think, just using the light from a window.
http://www.snoove.com/jps1.jpg
http://www.snoove.com/jps2.jpg
http://www.snoove.com/jps3.jpg
http://www.snoove.com/jp1.jpg (I think I may have slightly overexposed it though )
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29th March 2009, 04:26 PM #10
My current setup is very much more primitive than that, as you can see.
Looking forward to receiving the light tent with lights, various backdrops and 2 reflective tables (whiet and black).
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The photos look great. However, the top of the nib on most of the images looks over exposed - can't see it clearly on my monitor.
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29th March 2009, 05:25 PM #12Skwair2rownd
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29th March 2009, 05:55 PM #13
I think these are looking very good Fred...if you would like some of my thoughts and comments please read on....if not please feel free to ignore
photo 1...I think this is the best....its sharp, the colour is what i would imagine Ti to look like. And I think the composition is good. However to me the background looks a little more off white (slight pink hue) compared to the others. Do you shoot in RAW ?....if so, a little (I mean tiny) tweak of the white balance may help.
photo 2. This is still pleasant to look at...though to me the Ti looks more like chrome and it looks a bit softer than the first (noticeable on the thread on the end). You can also see the stuff your using to hold pen in place (easy fixed though)
photo 3. same as photo 2
photo 4. The pen does seem to pop more in this one, out of all of them the background is the closest to white and bright as it should be for high key photography ....though the brown stone for some reason doesn't agree with me for this pen....maybe another stone with similar colours would be worth a try
photo 5,6,7 I think 7 is the pick for me from these, just the right amount of shadow and the reflections give it a classy look. though I would still like to see the background more white (slight blue hue).
For what its worth I dont think you can improve the photography much more....I think a little post production would make them pretty much perfect. If they were my photos I would be doing some selective editing on the backgrounds to get them perfect white and maybe a little smart sharpening (sharpening technique using layer masks to help keep noise to a minimum). Most digital photos need some sharpening anyway.....other wise they look pretty bloody good to me
hope this help
BD
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29th March 2009, 06:08 PM #14
Thanks BD, that's exactly the sort of critique I was looking for, very comprehensive. I'll have to watch that Blue-Tack Have edited it out in some of my pics but missed it here.
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29th March 2009, 08:20 PM #15SENIOR MEMBER
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Hey Fred,
Glad to see some pics from the new gear.
I agree with Brown Dog. The first image has the best exposure, most obvious on the nib. If you shoot in RAW and use DPP, colour correcting is easy when you have a white reference colour. just click on the eye dropper int he tool palette, click on a white spot in the image, and Bob's your uncle!
Isn't it so much more fun & relaxing with proper gear? My old compact, I'd have to spend ages tweaking. Now with the 450D, I tweak just because I can, but almost all shots are presentable straight out the camera.
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