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    I am just looking for some ideas for a simple but effective finish for some of my pens. I have been making a few streamlines lately and because I am trying to have a range of prices for my pens I don't want to have to do CA on every pen that I make so would like to use a quicker but efective finish but do not want to make them a crap finish.
    Any advice appreciated ?

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    Ian, just use 1 coat Ca over the Shellawax, Amos
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    I use EEE followed by Hutt wax. Nice shine easy to do and even better it is darn quick.

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    Default Re: simple finish advice

    I use EEE and shellawax, especially good on darker timbers. I like the patina that develops with use.
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    I have made a few with nothing more then 5 coats of BLO, allowing to dry in between coats. Not only does the BLO 'lift the grain', it seems to make for a nice finish....


    Is it as shiny and glassy looking as a CA finish? No way, but it allows the wooden pen to look like wood!

    Does it take awhile longer to do this finish? Yup, but I have always thought this was a hobby...if I want a production line, I'd have to build a bigger shop and have a finishing room and employees


    There is always WoP too?


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    Yep, I'll vote 1 for EEE then Shellawax, then a coat of Traditional Wax applied with a little friction heat on the lathe. Very quick and silky smooth finish.
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    I use Glow on my slimlines, takes 30 seconds to get a really nice, smooth finish. With a bit of friction, you get a subtle glossy finish on most timbers. Sometimes I do a base coat of Glow, followed by EEE cream and another coat of Glow. I always apply 2 coats of Glow, just with some EEE in between as needed.

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    Ian

    Try the Nitrocellulose dipping method. Its fast to coat each pen ( just dip and hang them) but takes a while to dry. When you have enough coats on its done - no polishing needed. There is also the Poly product Les uses but in all honestly CA is faster to apply than that product. I don't like the shellac simply because sweat from the hand stains the pen.

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    Hi Ian

    Have you tried WOP finish the way Sam does it?

    Its quick to apply, except you have to apply the coats over a long time frame.

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    Yes I have thanks David but the problem with that process is that is by no means fast at all and I am looking for a good fast simple way if thats possible.

    Thanks anyway

    Cheers Ian

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    Hey Dorno,

    I can't see why you wouldn't do a few coats of CA, It may be the weather over here, but when I get arked up, and have a production line setup going, I can get a pen from square trimmed blank to a finished blank ready for assembly or engraving in about 5-6 minutes, 5 Coats of CA at least. (some get 6-8 depending on timber) just to 'Fluff' them up I will sometimes give them a hit with Hutts Friction Wax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodenink View Post
    Ian, just use 1 coat Ca over the Shellawax, Amos
    Amos, could you provide more details on how you do this ie what type of CA, level of sanding etc. It sounds too easy.

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    Check out this You Tube Vid. He is a memeber of the IAP. He is using the dipping method and shows off a nice jig that he built to get it done fast.


    Video:
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5hljaZd1Zw]Pen Finishing Rig - YouTube[/ame]

    Was going to post the IAP thread but not sure its allowed.

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    Hi Just

    What is the product being used for dipping in the video. Is it nitrocellulose based? I have tried dipping with nitro and haven't had a problem as long as you place the pen bush at the bottom of the blank - the nitro doesn't build up but runs off the bush when hung to dry. It allows a thick, smooth coat. The video looks good but I wonder if you would in fact need 30 - 40 coats just to make up the thickness on the blank as so much is wiped off and I would also be worried about streaking. That would defeat the purpose of speed. Also Nitro needs to cure over a few days to harden properly. Personally, I think that CA is the go and maybe finished with a WOP for depth, but that is not saving time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plantagenon View Post
    Hi Just

    What is the product being used for dipping in the video. Is it nitrocellulose based? I have tried dipping with nitro and haven't had a problem as long as you place the pen bush at the bottom of the blank - the nitro doesn't build up but runs off the bush when hung to dry. It allows a thick, smooth coat. The video looks good but I wonder if you would in fact need 30 - 40 coats just to make up the thickness on the blank as so much is wiped off and I would also be worried about streaking. That would defeat the purpose of speed. Also Nitro needs to cure over a few days to harden properly. Personally, I think that CA is the go and maybe finished with a WOP for depth, but that is not saving time.

    It is the finish from Penn State in the US. Here is the description from there site and a link. In the video he re-coats pretty fast because it is going on so thin and you can doo multiple coats.

    1 PT. High Gloss Clear Finish
    This lacquer is formulated to put a remarkable durable gloss finish on your projects.
    Pen turners can dip a turned pen tube in the solution, then let it dry to a flawless, blemish free,
    silky smooth and brilliant shine. Brush it onto larger projects. Dries in only 30 minutes-new coats
    can be applied without sanding. Supplied in 1 pint (16oz) can.

    High Gloss Dipping Solution: 1 PT at Penn State Industries
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