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Thread: Incra LS for furniture joinery
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31st December 2013, 09:18 PM #1New Member
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Incra LS for furniture joinery
Hi all,
I am about to pull the trigger on a router table top and base, and an LS Super System to go along with it.
But I've heard the system is not well suited to furniture joinery, or projects where larger joins are needed.
Does anyone have experience using the Incra system for making box and dovetails for large tables, desks, etc?
Cheers.
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1st January 2014, 01:56 AM #2
With any router dovetail system you are limited by the size of the dovetail bits. In the case of Incra, you are able to cut tails that are significantly wider than the corresponding pins to give the joint that better visual effect.
The system is designed for fine furniture projects including chests.
Give Mark a call to discuss your requirements and then make your decision but I suspect you will be pleasantly surprised.Cheers
Hilton
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2nd January 2014, 09:11 PM #3
Hi have an LS set up for my router table.
I love it heaps plus the uni lift has well
They are both worth the money
Only thing u must keep the lift posts on the lift clean ie compressed air or WD 40
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2nd January 2014, 09:36 PM #4
Hilton is correct. it is the length of the bits that is th elimiting factor in any router-based dovetail system. With Incra there is no limit on width that you are ever likely to want to exceed.
You can get router dovetail bits that are quite long that might not fit the standard Incra templeats but its not difficult to create your own templates to suit longer bits.
I have dovetail bits up to 2" cutting depth. If I need to go deeper than that no matter what router based system I had I would be looking at hand cutting or even bandsaw.
I am not sure what you are wanting to do but if you regularly want to be cutting huge dovetails then a router based system is not what you are looking for.
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DougI got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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3rd January 2014, 10:54 PM #5New Member
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Thanks guys, good info.
2 inches sounds big enough for what I have in mind, and, as you say, I can always cut larger with a bandsaw (next on my to buy list).
The large joints (box and dovetail) are not often repeated the way would normally use an iBox or similar jig, more like one big joint for each leg of a table, for instance. Considering this, would you still suggest an Incra system with the positioner, or would you go for something like the Woodpecker Superfence with a micro adjuster?
The ability to cut smaller patterns of joints would be handy, but my main tasks will be larger, single or double joints.
Lastly, I assume the choice is either iBox OR the LS super system? You wouldn't get both.
Cheers.
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4th January 2014, 11:48 AM #6
The only problem I can see is trying to move large objects over a router table can be problematic ie a table leg standing up say 900mm.
Can be done but is not an easy feat.
with out some sort of holding guide system.
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4th January 2014, 12:04 PM #7
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4th January 2014, 12:47 PM #8Retired
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I make heaps and heaps AND heaps of boxes and absolutely love my Incra LS. The router table is to the right of the table saw and use the Incra for both. I regularly make fences (sacrificial and otherwise) to use the router table more effective.
I also use the iBox for finger joints, but on the table saw...with a Freud dado set. So quick and easy. Trivialises the entire operation.
What has caught my attention is the Incra Wonderfence as an upgrade (for mine)...I'm trying to get a price out of the Aus distro but they must be on holidays (never respond to emails). It looks wonderful. Haha.
There is also the Leigh D4R sitting up on the shelf unused, but it seriously does my head in. I'm not clued enough to drive it, but not from trying.
The idea of driving a 2 inch bit in a router for dovetails is damned scary. Maybe in a Shaper, but not a router. One catch and that's a lot of spinning steel to explode timber. I did make some huge dovetails for some machinery cupboards with the Japanese saws....they are quick and easy at that size.
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4th January 2014, 01:13 PM #9Retired
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Big joints
I was re-reading your first post.
Over the last 18 months I've made 4 big tables and 3 small ones. None have called for any of the accuracy needed with an Incra fence.
Thinking about it, I did 80% of the work using the mitre gauge, a sacrificial backing for the blade to stop tear out and a stop block...clamped with some wooden grippers. Plenty accurate and 100% repeatable.
The rest was done on the big home made sled.... No real need for Incra or micro adjusts.
Maybe IM Wongo. I don't know him, but I've seen plenty of his work and his website. His work is amazing.
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