Thread: Incra positioner with Table Saw AND Router table - do you like yours?

Absolutely love it.

Zero effort to use the router or TS. One just needs to lower the router bit.

If I need to get exact height again, I just make a template with MDF and zing it past the bit. Matching the height to the template is trivial.

I really really really love the fact that you can absolutely set the distances as you want and get it 100% repeatable.

In the photos you can see Im using the Incra Wonder Jig you helped me get in the group buy

Excuse the mess. Im right in the middle of building a few chairs and tables! (also the camera hates fluoro lights for some reason. Its really quite bright)

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Thanks Ev.

Photoshop is your friend:

Originally Posted by Evanism

Excuse the mess. Im right in the middle of building a few chairs and tables! (also the camera hates fluoro lights for some reason. Its really quite bright)

Your shutter speed is not in sync with the cycle of the lights. If you guys are on 50Hz then you'll need to use a shutter speed of 1/100 but this is a bit slow for action photos.

Your workshop is neater than mine.

In your pics, the white tabletop creates an intense reflected light source (almost as bad as a light itself), so to keep this from blowing out (overexposure is generally worse than underexposure) in the image the camera will work out its exposure with that white area as the limiting factor. Everything else which isn't as bright and reflective will then be underexposed.

Or you could take the angle that a camera's exposure goal is that the desirable average 'colour' of a picture is 80% grey. The tabletop is 100% white, and it's about 10% of the image area, so to compensate the rest of the picture needs to be closer to a 90% grey.

All the reasons why I shoot in manual exposure - complete control.

Wow I thought this was about an incra system. All the photography lectures and I feel I'm back at uni.

Is the table saw system just a larger track version of the router table system? Or is there a router fence need as an accessory for the table saw system to do both in one?

Originally Posted by DSEL74

Wow I thought this was about an incra system. All the photography lectures and I feel I'm back at uni.

Yairs.....

Originally Posted by DSEL74

Is the table saw system just a larger track version of the router table system? Or is there a router fence need as an accessory for the table saw system to do both in one?

There are a few different options. Both your observations are correct Dale.
http://www.incrementaltools.com/INCR..._p/ls32-ts.htm

It started life as a TS/LS32, second hand in imperial off someone on the board. At the time they didn't make a conversion kit, so I talked to an engineer at Incra who sent me all the bits and a mates-sale-deal to "work it out" myself. (they now make a complete kit)

There is a wonderfence upgrade there and a few bits of Incra track on a home made router lift solution (Kreg top, Triton underneath). I haven't used the track yet.... seems a waste so far, bit I will make some feather boards, eventually) A keen eye will spot virtually everything else Incra sells on the shelves next to it (Mitre, iBox, etc). Its all kept in easy reach and little bits are in a trundle that sits against the router dust box under the table (100mm duct, covered elsewhere)

As for those who think its neat(!!!) I have to keep it that way. My space is very limited, so everything has a place and is vacuumed each arvo after work (ok, 2am).... just use the big DE with a wand I made out of PVC pipe.

The tablesaw is nothing magic. The biesemeyer fence had to go. Zero repeatability. Its a crap system. A classic case of "stuff being that way because it always has"... The Incra was an absolute breath of fresh air. I do all sorts of stuff on the TS and router now that were previously done on other machines. I joint and cut to absolute 0.00mm accuracy all the parts I make for my "commercial" commissions. I cannot recall the last time I used the jointer.

The system lets me pump out a table and 4 chairs in a day. Masses of boxes are the same. Everything pretrimmed in the front yard on my jury-rigged trellis-on-a-trailer and then final trims and finish on the TS/router. Using a sharp Freud blade gives smooth finish, so I just need to give a quick blat of 180 grit to finish for paint.

The Incra system is an absolute bloody marvel. You will NOT regret the purchase.

I still don't use it all to the maximum benefit. I very much want to use it for dovetails, etc, but I've been a bit crook in the head to get focused enough to learn.

(I have zero affiliation, other than being an exceedingly happy customer)

How hard is it to install to the saw and setup accurate? Any modifications to the saw needed?

Originally Posted by DSEL74

How hard is it to install to the saw and setup accurate? Any modifications to the saw needed?

Depends. It's not difficult at all to install. You just need to read the instructions carefully and then re-read them to make sure you are not assuming too much.

I chose to limit my rip capacity to 700mm as I don't cut up sheet goods on the table saw. This set-up effectively moves the rails to the left giving me more room on the left side for an extension wing. I use this space for a cross-cut sled built with Incra bits. It's similar to the Miter 5000.

Setup is dead set simple.

Off with the old fence, put four little "L" brackets in the existing table saw holes, bolts goldilocks loose, slide the bars on, set height by sliding a steel ruler under the main cross-beam, tighten bolts. Height is now set.

Once its set there is no need for adjustment.

Next step is setting the cross beam to be dead parallel with the mitre. Undo 4 screws on the cross piece a smidgen. Put a rail/stick/metre steel rule in the mitre, slide the cross beam hard up against the now-entrapped ruler and tighten the screws.

(you still need to do a precise blade-to-mitre alignment on the table saw to avoid death, but this is done anyway regardless of fence)

Check the fence alignment to the mitre and blade with your handy runout gauge (?name?) and ensure its dead even (mine is out a thou at the back deliberately)

Voila.

First time you'll try and read the instructions and follow them like a good lad, but my method takes about 5 minutes and is, in the end, the same.

Originally Posted by hilton

Depends. It's not difficult at all to install. You just need to read the instructions carefully and then re-read them to make sure you are not assuming too much.

I chose to limit my rip capacity to 700mm as I don't cut up sheet goods on the table saw. This set-up effectively moves the rails to the left giving me more room on the left side for an extension wing. I use this space for a cross-cut sled built with Incra bits. It's similar to the Miter 5000.

Any chance of a pic with the setup and the sled?

Originally Posted by Evanism

Any chance of a pic with the setup and the sled?

Sure. I'll take some tonight.

Sorry to be clear, my set-up is just the table saw, not the combo.

Still want photies?

I have just purchased my Incra Fence/Positioner and are using it on a Jet Table saw. I would welcome some advice as when I set the rails up as instructed in the manual I find the rais sit above the base of the Mitre Slots and subsequently foul any jigs I use. What do you think I could be doing wrong and how can I resolve it?

Trust you can help

Rgeards