Garage roof saga

**Barry_White** · 24th January 2008, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by Cin

Bazza is spot on.

Cost is the first thing that comes to my mind. It would cost at least 700 to do what you suggested because I have to add extra purlins to support the ceiling material, joist hangers, fasteners, and the colorbond material, etc. Ceiling material needs to fully enclose the entire area otherwise lead-paint dust may escape.

Insulation could be added after the new roof is on. I may consider that later on once I enclose the garage.

Chris

Actually the best way to insulate the roof would be as they do in commercial roof applications by laying Insulmesh over your roof supports then laying Anticon Blanket & Foil over the mesh fix your clips and then you roof sheet.

This would really save you a lot of difficult work later on. If you don't put the insulation in I would a least put the foil in because when you close the carport in you are going to have condensation problems.

**Cin** · 2nd February 2008, 01:50 AM

Bazza,

Thank you very much for your suggestion. I saw that Bunnings sells some insulation foil (but couldn't find the wire mesh), although I really need to research this further. The roof material arrived, however the bottom sheet has a few dings in it because it supported all the weight...not sure if it will be an issue when it comes to fastening it to the clips. Photos to follow!

**Jacksin** · 2nd February 2008, 05:19 AM

Hopefully Cin you will find the 'bottom sheet with a few dings' is a packing sheet to protect the others and is discarded.

**Barry_White** · 2nd February 2008, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Cin

Bazza,

Thank you very much for your suggestion. I saw that Bunnings sells some insulation foil (but couldn't find the wire mesh), although I really need to research this further. The roof material arrived, however the bottom sheet has a few dings in it because it supported all the weight...not sure if it will be an issue when it comes to fastening it to the clips. Photos to follow!

Hi Cin

This is where you will buy the Insulmesh.

http://www.metaland.com.au/store_lis...y=NSW&city=All

**Cin** · 2nd February 2008, 10:12 AM

Thanks for that link Bazza!

In my case the company who delivered the roof material didn't use a packing sheet.

**Barry_White** · 2nd February 2008, 11:42 AM

Put a claim on them to replace it.

**Cin** · 16th February 2008, 10:54 PM

G'day Bazza,

I removed the Klip-Lok sheets today but I can't get the clips off. They are nailed down with 4 nails. I used a pinch-bar to no effect...Any ideas? I had to put a tarp over the roof because rain is forecast for tonight and tomorrow.

Regards,

Chris

**Barry_White** · 17th February 2008, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Cin

G'day Bazza,

I removed the Klip-Lok sheets today but I can't get the clips off. They are nailed down with 4 nails. I used a pinch-bar to no effect...Any ideas? I had to put a tarp over the roof because rain is forecast for tonight and tomorrow.

Regards,

Chris

Chris

If they are nailed into hardwood you would probably never remove them. I would get a 4" or 41/2" angle grinder with a grinding disk in it and grind the heads off the nails or at least make the heads thinner so you can tear the clips.

The other way would be to drill the heads of the nails.

**rsser** · 17th February 2008, 06:15 PM

Bear in mind there is also out there a 'flat' pinch bar that I find ideal for getting under flat head nails or nails with metal washers. You can use the chisel end to start to lift and then finish with the 'fork'.

Dunno what they're called. Can post a pic if needed.

**Cin** · 18th February 2008, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Barry_White

Chris

If they are nailed into hardwood you would probably never remove them. I would get a 4" or 41/2" angle grinder with a grinding disk in it and grind the heads off the nails or at least make the heads thinner so you can tear the clips.

The other way would be to drill the heads of the nails.

I think the beams are Oregon. They dented fairly easily when using the pinch bar. I saw a Black and Decker 4" angle grinder for $50 at Bunnings yesterday, so will return today to buy one. Thank you for the quick response Barry.

Chris

**Cin** · 20th February 2008, 10:12 PM

On Sunday I managed to get the clips off with a 900mm crow bar with the help of my dad and cousin. Tarpaulins cover the roof temporarily until this weekend when I hope to install the new roof (Klip-lok 700). Luckily, my dad stopped by and used the crowbar, otherwise I would have had to use a angle grinder.

**Cin** · 4th March 2008, 10:00 PM

Photo of the infamous clip. Fastened to the timber beam by four screws with flat heads, which made it a real PITA to remove. Removed each clip by starting from one end or the middle, using a 900mm pinch bar.

**rileyp** · 20th March 2008, 10:52 PM

My 2 cents
If the roof was flaking so badly couldn't you of enclosed the whole carport area with clear plastic with tape and hired a roofing type steam cleaner and blasted the crap out of it using dust masks and spermsuit to remove 99% of the paint and then gently hosed down the roof and rafters and allowed to dry and then vacuumed up the mess on the ground and considered the job complete?
I'm interested to hear what people think of this supposed remedy of mine and its faults perhaps

I may be mistaken but it is my understanding that lead based paints when they flake the flake will almost always be yellow on the underside?
If the flakes were yellow on the underside I'd bet my left one the paint contained lead.
Cheers Rileyp

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