Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Needs Pictures Needs Pictures:  0
Picture(s) thanks Picture(s) thanks:  0
Results 1 to 15 of 15
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Melbourne
    Age
    65
    Posts
    979

    Default Reblocking - Which Levelling Device To Use?

    Hi,

    When we had reblockers out 2 years ago came to level up the house they used a long tube with one end clipped to a wooden board in a "U" shape. It looked old enough to have been used by the Egyptians when building the pyramids They used the base of the chimney as the datum point.

    The second group/gang who we had in last year to redo it again they used a gadget (electronic costing $$$'s) that told you if the floor need to go up (or down) from the signal of the other part which was located at the base of the chimney (again!!). Now does anyone know what this gadget is called? and is it the sort of thing I could hire? I'm sorry if I didn't explain it well but I've just spent 45 minutes on google trying to locate it without any luck.

    Thanking those in advance who kindly leave their advice.

    Cheers
    MH

  2. # ADS
    Google Adsense Advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Age
    2010
    Posts
    Many





     
  3. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    East Warburton, Vic
    Age
    54
    Posts
    14,189

    Default

    Is this what you saw been used or similar?
    Cheers

    DJ


    ADMIN

  4. #3
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Kuranda, paradise, North Qld
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,639

    Default

    Metal Head,
    there's nothing wrong with using a water level, they're cheap and accurate. The device the second lot was probably a laser with a receiver unit. They can be hired. A laser may not be the best tool for this job because the beam would be blocked by some of the stumps closer to the head unit. There may be some other electronic devices out there but I've haven't heard of them.

    You can make up a water level with a reservoir at one end and a tap on the working end which can be operated by one person. Doesn't depend on line of site and as long as you make sure there's no trapped air bubbles or anything pinching the hose will be as accurate as the laser.

    Mick
    "If you need a machine today and don't buy it,

    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

  5. #4
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Latrobe Valley Victoria
    Posts
    296

    Default

    I'm more curious as to why you had to get reblockers back after 2 years

    I had my house restumped around 4 years ago by a fellow from Dandinong and IMO done a real SH*T job

    Like you I expected him to use a laser and/or some hi-tech device but he used a water level and a Sh*t load of truck bottle jacks
    Electricity:
    One Flash and you're ASH

  6. #5
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Armidale NSW
    Age
    53
    Posts
    1,938

    Default

    I'm with Mick, go the water level - use a fixed bucket of water as the datum, with the other end free (for levelling).

    I used a laser level (a cheap one mind you) when I did the stumps for the deck and it was a mess. I ended up using the water level to do the final levelling. Water levels are very accurate and much more flexible.

    I now use the water level whenever I need to level anything that is significantly longer than my spirit level.
    Cheers.

    Vernon.
    __________________________________________________
    Bite off more than you can chew and then chew like crazy.

  7. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Sydney
    Age
    61
    Posts
    152

    Default

    I'm a big fan of the humble water level, but if you make the tube too long and or too small, it takes FOREVER to level itself.

    I've used mine for lots of applications, from land levels to setting up my foundations on the extension and with great results.
    Cheers

    Alan M

    My Daughter's food blog www.spicyicecream.com.au

  8. #7
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    South Australia
    Posts
    4,475

    Default

    Yep water levels are great but trust me, If you have few hundred dollars to spare then Rotary Laser Level are are lot more fun

  9. #8
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Kuranda, paradise, North Qld
    Age
    62
    Posts
    5,639

    Default

    Yeah, but the rotary laser level might not be that great if you have a forest of house stumps to work on as the ones closer to the unit will block the beam in places. It will work fine if you can find somewhere to hang it that will allow the beam to get to all/most of the stumps.

    Mick
    "If you need a machine today and don't buy it,

    tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it."

    - Henry Ford 1938

  10. #9
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Melbourne
    Age
    65
    Posts
    979

    Default

    Hi Lads,

    Thanks to all of you who replied - much appreciated. In regards to the laser level - that wasn't what was used. The measuring instrument (receiver) I am sure it was free of any wiring (that's why I thought it was electronic). Given that was moved around within the house thus it would be a laser!!. I made myself a water level after the first gang had left so I could check the levelness of the house should further cracking take place. I will get it out again sometime in the next week and see that the tolerances are within the regulations guidelines.

    Cheers
    MH

  11. #10
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    SE suburbs, Melbourne
    Age
    60
    Posts
    142

    Default

    Hi MH,
    Just for info, the chimney is always used as the reference point because it is the most stable part of the house, being built up from brick and having a more solid and wider based foundation (compared to the stumps); is hence is the part of the house which would have moved least over the years. You'll find that the area of the house near the chimney would be the highest, while the floors further away & especially the perimeters of the house (which have to bear most of the load of the roofs) will have settled / dropped the most.

  12. #11
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Adelaide - West
    Age
    43
    Posts
    620

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Metal Head View Post
    Hi Lads,

    Thanks to all of you who replied - much appreciated. In regards to the laser level - that wasn't what was used. The measuring instrument (receiver) I am sure it was free of any wiring (that's why I thought it was electronic). Given that was moved around within the house thus it would be a laser!!.

    Cheers
    MH
    I've seen gps systems used a bit more now days, they are super expensive but dont require line of sight to work. They refence satelite technology same as your average gps in car, but give you heights as well.
    If you dont play it, it's not an instrument!

  13. #12
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Behind that little door under the thicknesser...
    Posts
    644

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashwood View Post
    Hi MH,
    Just for info, the chimney is always used as the reference point because it is the most stable part of the house, being built up from brick and having a more solid and wider based foundation (compared to the stumps); is hence is the part of the house which would have moved least over the years. You'll find that the area of the house near the chimney would be the highest, while the floors further away & especially the perimeters of the house (which have to bear most of the load of the roofs) will have settled / dropped the most.
    That wouldn't work at our place cause the bearers were anchored to the chimmney......and a total lack of dampcourse resulted in the ends of the bearers heading south due to dry rot. They managed to sink further than the old timber stumps did!!
    Ours is not to reason why.....only to point and giggle.

  14. #13
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Crabbes Creek
    Posts
    9

    Default Yep to water level.

    I have just done my house (about 42 stumps and on a slope) using the water level and it works a gem. Put a drop of dishwashing liqid in to minimise the miniscus (the capilary attraction that makes the water "hold" on to the side of the hose) and to reduce time waiting for the water to stop bouncing around just very briefly put your thumb over the end of the hose when you think it's about level. This saves you weighting ages for it to equalise.
    If at first you don't succeed, hide all evidence that you tried.

  15. #14
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Grange, Brisbane
    Age
    53
    Posts
    1,642

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by bricks View Post
    I've seen gps systems used a bit more now days, they are super expensive but dont require line of sight to work. They refence satelite technology same as your average gps in car, but give you heights as well.
    But the survey guys at uni last week told us gps systems can only get to within 100mm which is not even close for levelling a house. Or have they improved the system?
    Cheers, Richard

    "... work to a standard rather than a deadline ..." Ticky, forum member.

  16. #15
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Nunawading
    Posts
    31

    Default Water level

    If your making a water level make sure that you add some food colouring to the water as it makes it easer to see/read

Similar Threads

  1. Theft deterent device
    By Studley 2436 in forum WOODWORK PICS
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 23rd March 2006, 10:09 PM
  2. Saw Safety Device
    By echnidna in forum HAND TOOLS - POWERED
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 24th May 2004, 08:14 PM
  3. HINGE SETTING DEVICE????
    By ubeaut in forum WOODWORK - GENERAL
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 19th October 1999, 10:46 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •