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    Question Wet Areas for Power...Any Lecs?

    G'Day Ppl,

    Seeking advice on Distances in Wet Areas for Electrical Items.
    GPOs and Sub-Boards.
    My SAA is at Work and I am on Holidays.........
    Some Holidays, Huh!!!
    working Harder and more than my [normal] Job

    1/
    Distance for GPOs to Laundry Tubs, Vertical and Horizontal?

    2/
    Distance for GPOs to Washing Machine and /or its Lid (top Loader), Vertical and Horizontal?

    3/
    Distance for Sub-Board to Laundry Tubs, Vertical and Horizontal?

    4/
    Distance for Sub-Board to Washing Machine and /or its Lid (top Loader), Vertical and Horizontal?


    Looking to put a Sub-Board in the Shed, Near where the Electrical Conduit comes out
    there will be a Washing Machine and Laundry Tub near that Corner.
    Navvi

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    OK!!

    Did some more Searches and used My Search Engine to locate a couple.

    GUESS WHAT!!!

    They were here All Thge TIME.
    http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...t=57005&page=2

    Must get to use the Search Facility HERE Better.

    Now I have to go find Information for the Sub-Board...............Full on RCDs
    1 RCD per Circuit....OverKill I know, but, Hey!
    What the heck
    Navvi

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    So, I've gone for the new reg book this time...

    "6.2.4.6 A switchboard shall not be installed within any classified zone"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan in Oz View Post
    G'Day Ppl,

    Seeking advice on Distances in Wet Areas for Electrical Items.
    GPOs and Sub-Boards.
    .
    The Electrician that does the work will know all this
    Electricity:
    One Flash and you're ASH

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    Quote Originally Posted by nev25 View Post
    The Electrician that does the work will know all this
    For once I think you have finally jumped in too early Nev.

    From previous posts and discussions, I could safely assume that Ivan is a sparky out in Western QLD. Not every sparky is wiring domestically and do need to refer to their SAA rule book from time to time.

    Constructive help is nice from time to time .

    Cheers
    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausyuppy View Post
    For once I think you have finally jumped in too early Nev.

    From previous posts and discussions, I could safely assume that Ivan is a sparky out in Western QLD. Not every sparky is wiring domestically and do need to refer to their SAA rule book from time to time.

    Constructive help is nice from time to time .

    Cheers
    Steve
    Sorry I have to disagree
    Maybe he is a sparkie if he is he should have a copy if the regs.
    Yes Even those who work in industrial should have the regs (It does cover some Industrial situations its not all domestic)

    As a sparkie he should know for advice like posted he should be talking to an Electrical Inspector who knows not wannabees on a forum who think they know.

    After all anyone on here that gives advice to someone who injures them self can be held liable
    Electricity:
    One Flash and you're ASH

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    Now the can of worms is open again
    LET THE GAMES BEGIN
    Electricity:
    One Flash and you're ASH

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    Red face Wet Areas...........................behing the ears

    Quote Originally Posted by Ausyuppy View Post
    I could safely assume that Ivan is a sparky out in Western QLD. Steve
    Ta Guys, Steve.

    Yes,
    Mostly 4-20milliamp
    or
    6.6kV

    Both ends of the spectrum
    I'll wait 'till I'm at work again,
    been on Hols, now I DO need a rest

    Oh!!
    Western Qld is further out West..............
    Like Dirranbandi way

    I'm an Hour out from Toowoomba
    Navvi

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    Quote Originally Posted by nev25 View Post
    Sorry I have to disagree
    Maybe he is a sparkie if he is he should have a copy if the regs.
    Yes Even those who work in industrial should have the regs (It does cover some Industrial situations its not all domestic)

    As a sparkie he should know for advice like posted he should be talking to an Electrical Inspector who knows not wannabees on a forum who think they know.

    After all anyone on here that gives advice to someone who injures them self can be held liable
    By no means am I advocating that unlicenced people should be doing electrical work.

    Ivans post said that his copy of the wiring rules were at work. He was looking for other Electricians that could give him an answer, I cant see what your issue is with that.

    If someone gives out advice with exerts directly from AS3000 I cant see how he would be helf liable. That document is available to anyone who wants to pay the money to Standards Australia.

    Cheers
    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausyuppy View Post

    If someone gives out advice with exerts directly from AS3000 I cant see how he would be helf liable. That document is available to anyone who wants to pay the money to Standards Australia.

    Cheers
    Steve

    Tell the Chief Electrical inspectors office that


    Hey I'm not the enemy here Just repeating what we have been told
    Electricity:
    One Flash and you're ASH

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    Ivan what is the volume of the tubs
    in Litres
    Electricity:
    One Flash and you're ASH

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    Default Tubs

    G'day Nev,

    Tubs aren't in yet.....Not even purchased.
    BUT
    from memory,
    I'd best make it less than 45 Litres,
    If my Memory serves me well.......................


    "This wheel's on Fire"
    Brian Auger, Julie Driscoll and the Trinity
    Navvi

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    Quote Originally Posted by nev25 View Post
    Tell the Chief Electrical inspectors office that


    Hey I'm not the enemy here Just repeating what we have been told
    Whomever told you that is a complete tool. Quoting from official sources anyone can purchase holds no liability at all. If anything liability is towards the people who wrote the standards for supplying incorrect information should it be found faulty.

    Protectionalism in industries is rife with a shitload of scare campaigns. If only all electricians followed those standards to the letter it'd be a better world. Most don't. I've had electricians pop in who were so lazy and obviously not following standards it wasn't funny. I threw two out before I found one that was half decent. Hell I found one guy running incorrect guage wire for the powerpoints just because he ran out of the proper stuff. What a joke. Informing non-electrical people about the standards is good because at least they can double check the electricians work rather than just take it on blind faith that the work is done right (often is isn't totally to standards). I hate it when the consumer is denied information because they are worse off for it.

    Standards should be free and open to the public for download so that any queries they have about an electricians work can be double checked. At least those who do it themselves when they shouldn't would have more chance of getting it right. As it stands they just go ahead with it anyway. Denial of information accomplishes nothing.

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    Here's a good online reference to everyday electrical wiring details when your copy of AS/NZS 3000 is in hiding.

    It's from the NZ government energy site, and its designed to help homeowners meet safety standards when they do their own electrical work.

    http://www.energysafety.govt.nz/uplo...8/ecp51v18.pdf

    And these are good too:

    Fitting downlights -
    NZECP 54:2001: New Zealand Electrical Code of Practice for the Installation of Recessed Luminaires and Auxiliary Equipment

    Fixing appliances -
    NZECP 50:2004: New Zealand Electrical Code of Practice for Repair and Maintenance of Domestic Electrical Appliances by the Owner of the Appliance

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    Yeah I can totally understand what Nev25 is on about here not on this reg but on others you cant be too careful about what you tell people either on this site or anyhwere without it possibly comin back at you to bite you in the ????!!! Sometimes I question the whole idea of the Elect Blog here as rules vary from state to state and even though you live in the same state then the local council duristictions come into play then they overide state regs it neve ends!

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