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    Default 100 year old elm

    Hi guys,
    I found this elm log in my wood stash yesterday,
    heaved it on to the lathe , debarked it and turned it round
    today I shaped and hollowed it , still not too sure what
    it will be,,,,,.......???
    The log came from the ebor school a few years ago
    there were 6 magnificent old elm trees which were planted
    in1906 when the school was first built , i managed to
    collect a few pieces before they were all chipped,
    i think one day a branch fell down and so the powers
    that be decided they should all come down,,,,,,
    so any ideas , comments or advice appreciated
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    Cheers smiife

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    No ideas, but I'm looking forward to seeing what you make of it. You're working at a different scale to the one I'm used to!

    Out of interest, how do you deal with the pith when turning entire logs?

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    Show off....................... nice hollowing rig


    They should (the school) be made to replant 12 Elm trees of mature sapling status not tiny seedlings. I bet that those trees were planted by some dignitaries which was part of the schools history. If this is the case and the school is of historical importance they could find themselves in deep.

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    Smiife,

    That is going to be beautiful.

    It is nice to see turners starting with perfectly balanced, round blanks.
    So much timber, so little time.

    Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael_m View Post
    No idea, but I'm looking forward to seeing what you make of it. You're working at a different scale to the one I'm used to!

    Out of interest, how do you deal with the pith when turning entire logs?
    Hi michael,
    I hope this will be dry by now, It, s been down for about
    4 yrs, most of the pith will be taken out when hollowed
    so hoping It will be ok, this is the first large log I have
    turned like this!, so I will have to see what happens
    there are a few small cracks already !

    Quote Originally Posted by wheelinround View Post
    Show off....................... nice hollowing rig


    They should (the school) be made to replant 12 Elm trees of mature sapling status not tiny seedlings. I bet that those trees were planted by some dignitaries which was part of the schools history. If this is the case and the school is of historical importance they could find themselves in deep.
    Hi wheelie,
    They did plant new trees , I think they are called prunus!
    That hollowing rig IS the best tool i have ever bought
    easy to use, quick and very effective !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul39 View Post
    Smiife,

    That is going to be beautiful.

    It is nice to see turners starting with perfectly balanced, round blanks.
    Hi paul,
    Thanks for your comments, hoping it will turn out ok (pun intended)

    Thanks to all for looking
    Cheers smiife

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiife View Post
    Hi michael,
    I hope this will be dry by now, It, s been down for about
    4 yrs, most of the pith will be taken out when hollowed
    so hoping It will be ok, this is the first large log I have
    turned like this!, so I will have to see what happens
    there are a few small cracks already !
    Once it is hollowed it should be OK. Rule of thumb is one year per inch of diameter to dry. This is why bowl turners rough turn, leaving the thickness around 10 % of the diameter, then wrapping in newspaper or any of the other methods to let it dry slowly.

    Once you get your piece hollowed, let it rest around the shed or in the house for at least a couple of weeks, better a month or two. It will do whatever moving around it is going to do and dry out. Then you can finish.

    I have roughed a bowl from freshly cut timber and have it turn foot ball (US not Soccer) shaped in two weeks.

    I have also had a piece of red oak that was split down the middle and roughly hollowed with a circular saw and sat in the house for 7 years, move and crack overnight after I roughed it on the lathe.
    So much timber, so little time.

    Paul

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    Looks good Michael. It has an urn shape so far, but I'll be interested to see what you do with it.
    Nice timber, too. That grain is really going to pop when it has a finish.
    ... Steve

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    Hello Smife,

    Have you tried using a second tool rest, using standard rest at the front of the hollowing as a second level to the long tool.
    I have been doing this lately and have found that the second rest at the front really helps keep the tool from dipping on the deep hollowing.
    You are lucky to have scored the elm - turns good. Impressed with the progress so far. All the best, Drillit.

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    QUOTE=Hermit;1790977]Looks good Michael. It has an urn shape so far, but I'll be interested to see what you do with it.
    Nice timber, too. That grain is really going to pop when it has a finish.[/QUOTE]

    Hi hermit,
    It has taken a kind of urn shape, will have to see how it goes!
    hopefully It will be ok.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drillit View Post
    Hello Smife,

    Have you tried using a second tool rest, using standard rest at the front of the hollowing as a second level to the long tool.
    I have been doing this lately and have found that the second rest at the front really helps keep the tool from dipping on the deep hollowing.
    You are lucky to have scored the elm - turns good. Impressed with the progress so far. All the best, Drillit.
    Hi drillit,
    Thanks for the tip , second toolrest ,had not thought of that
    would need another banjo though !

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul39 View Post
    Once it is hollowed it should be OK. Rule of thumb is one year per inch of diameter to dry. This is why bowl turners rough turn, leaving the thickness around 10 % of the diameter, then wrapping in newspaper or any of the other methods to let it dry slowly.

    Once you get your piece hollowed, let it rest around the shed or in the house for at least a couple of weeks, better a month or two. It will do whatever moving around it is going to do and dry out. Then you can finish.

    I have roughed a bowl from freshly cut timber and have it turn foot ball (US not Soccer) shaped in two weeks.

    I have also had a piece of red oak that was split down the middle and roughly hollowed with a circular saw and sat in the house for 7 years, move and crack overnight after I roughed it on the lathe.
    Hi paul,
    Don, t yah just hate that when that happens
    not to sure if i have the patients to wait too long!
    I always seem to want to finish and see what it looks like
    Thanks for your comments and advice
    Cheers smiife

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiife View Post
    Hi guys,
    i think one day a branch fell down and so the powers
    that be decided they should all come down,,,,,,
    Elm does that, there is an old English folklore saying goes,

    Elm Hateth man, and Waiteth.

    So I reckon more than one bough has landed on a head in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr4g0nfly View Post
    Elm does that, there is an old English folklore saying goes,

    Elm Hateth man, and Waiteth.

    So I reckon more than one bough has landed on a head in the past.
    Hi dr4g0nfly,
    Thanks for those words of wisdom
    Cheers smiife

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr4g0nfly View Post
    Elm does that, there is an old English folklore saying goes,

    Elm Hateth man, and Waiteth.

    So I reckon more than one bough has landed on a head in the past.
    Not just elm. I have 7 maples on or overhanging my lot. I never lack for kindling wood as they rain dead branches all the time, with a few 20 foot long 6 - 8 inch ones occasionally when we have windstorms or wet sticky snow.

    I've had a few dents in the roofs of my work truck and a crack in a windshield that already had a few.
    So much timber, so little time.

    Paul

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    Smiife have you finished it yet?! Keen to see finished project!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck1 View Post
    Smiife have you finished it yet?! Keen to see finished project!
    Hi chuckie,
    No I have not had any shed time this weekend
    unfortunately, been getting book work up to date
    for Mr Abbott, and co...........I think I need a .
    Cheers smiife

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    I thought the hold up may have been the early morning temps lowest seen o weather has been -9C with snow must have been fun on the iced up roads.

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